Max Kaiser
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Walter and others:
Are you editing locally, or via a san like XSAN? When I tried premiere, this seemed to be my problem. I was trying to save everything (metadata, etc.) to the san as we do with FCP and I just had so much background conforming all of the time, stuttering (but that may have been my kona card, thanks for pointing that out Walt), and crashing.
Max
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
So what will you use?
FCPX is no good…
Premiere can’t handle collaborative…Avid?
I have no experience with this.
Max
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Yeah. This is what is really confusing me. As a house with 4 or 5 editors who might all work on a project via XSAN, I can’t conceive of any possible way we could use this program.
From what I can tell from playing around this AM:
1) You can’t tell it where you want to save a project (always saves in your “movies” folder like imovie.
2) The “move” project command doesn’t work (I get a “no value” in the Location pull down menu)
3) I can “see” my xsan volume in the browser of FCPXBizarre!
Max
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Yes, Mick, I was wondering about that. We’re looking at being hired by company, as an incorporated company – not an individual. Does that make a difference? The show would be a Canadian show, but maybe it has international legs, not sure…
Max
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Working up in Bellingham, WA, next to Vancouver, I’d love to find this out as well…
Max
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Alex,
I think I’ll go with the first suggestion and give that a whirl.
I’m guessing that when we archive the project we can lose the media caches and then just rebuild them in the event we need to un-archive.
As for the dSLR footage – it is single files, but yes, they are within a fairly substantial folder hierarchy.
Last thing – I’m still not sure if I should be clicking the main preference in PP that asks if you want to keep media cache files with their source files?? This really creates a mess in the footage folders that’s is a pain to deal with in Bridge when looking for footage, etc.
Thanks again for all of your help on this!
MaxMax Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Thanks, Alex,
We’ve got the common/project system worked out pretty well from our FCP stuff. We do it pretty much like that. The new element is all of the media cacheing etc. Do most people do “keep metadata with source”? One problem, it appears, is that preferences are set on a Premiere Pro application basis, rather than a project basis. Is there a way around this?
Mainly, my problems seem a lot like the gent in the previous thread regarding san stuff. We get a bunch of issues with spinning balls, long reconnects, etc. My guess is that, for me at least, this is related to the metadata traveling over the ethernet as opposed to the fibre. On FCP, this is not a problem, but we’ve had a lot of lagging on PP.
Mostly, PP just feels like I’m walking on eggshells all of the time and about to crash. Zooming through the edit sequence, or popping quickly between window panes of the project always generates a slight hang and has occasionally taken down the whole computer – something we’ve not seen from FCP in some time. I absolutely love the render engine, but the extra amount of time dedicated to just general UI activities sort of cancels the speed gains out from that…We work really quickly on this stuff all day and it just doesn’t seem like PP wants to keep up…I’m sure there might be better codecs to be working with than dSLR h.264, but native editing of that was the MAJOR selling point for us since we’ve wasted oodles of disk space and time converting all to PRORES in FCP.
Any further thoughts on this specific media management issues for a san would be great:
1) Aside from the clearly project based ancillary files (the ones that come up at the beginning of the project) how should I have my media cache stuff set in the PP preferences panel for use on SAN?
Oh – and any system improvements would be welcome – I’m currently running an 8core with 12gb of RAM and the stock video card. Any mac people out there have a better setup for hDSLR editing?
Thanks,
MaxMax Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7, PP 7.03
OS 10.6
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Anyone have experience with XSAN and dSLR footage on Intel mac? Just looking for some pointers on organizing all those pesky metadata files for best archiving/consolidation of projects and, of course, speed.
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Corey,
I’ve been having some issues. I’m trying out premiere for a 5 edit suite studio – I edit over XSAN/fibre and seem to get a lot of lag. I’m not sure, though, if I am setting up my metadata caches correctly – does anyone have any info on this? Typically, I like to have my editors all work off of the SAN and not locally since we like to pass projects around – is this going to be a problem? Where should we put our caches? And should we tell it to save the metadata files right beside the dSLR originals? This starts to look pretty messy…
Max
Test System – 8 core intel MacPro, 8gb ram, XSAN 2gb fibre
Max Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D -
Comcast just started allowing digital delivery for spots in our area (seattle).
Originally we had to do their very interesting mpeg-2 encoding to mixed results. Then, recently, they started allowing us to send them prores and they would encode. Spots looked much better.
Now, they are going to let us use HD. This is a first in our region. Still, they say it must be 29.97 prores. Does anyone have any experience with this? What are you using to convert 23.98 – which is all we shoot – to 29.97? Compressor yields okay results but with a slight bit of visible (to me) stuttering. Does DG do the conversion? Well?
Thanks!
MaxMax Kaiser
Director
Hand Crank Films
https://www.handcrankfilms.comVarious Intel
FCP 7
OS 10.5
RED/XDCAM/7D