HI Zax , Thanks for your reply. This is the first Time I’ve got on the computer for almost two weeks,so I haven’t been able to use the program more. Yes it is easy to put tweaks on objects with out realizing it because its kind of natural to just reach up and move something in the window. Every program has some strange behavoirs related to the concepts behind how the program functions and sometimes it takes a lot of using a program to learn its strenghts and weakness and to figure work arounds to some problems. Over all your programs great but at times I have to do some real head twisting to understand things , more time using the program will help alot . Thanks for your reply. Mark