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I appreciate it! 🙂

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“I just did a shoot where I was doing a fireside scene where I didn’t want to blow out the fire yet not have noise in the blacks. It all came down to lighting and F stop like everyone is saying. Once I got my F stop at around 4, the grain disappeared. I have found on the EX it is noisier at F1.9 at -3 db gain than at F4 with 6 db of gain. So don’t be afraid to use gain with higher F stops, it doesn’t necessarily mean noise

That is incredibly helpful to know! I’ll experiment with different lighting setups and stops to see if I can get different results 🙂

Thank you (and to you Noah!)

If you have a reading light in the shot (a “practical” in production terms) there is no reason not to light things to make it appear that it’s the only light while the scene is in fact lit – carefully – to create proper exposure. Post-shooting color correction is a good friend here as well.

Hi! Yes of course. We had some basic lighting courses at school. I hope you don’t jugde me only on this unplanned-unlighted-complety-random testfootage 😉

Thank you though!

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Hmm. I see.

The footage was something I just shot so I had something to show.

The thing is I also have footage from filmschool, in a studio with more decent lighting – a greenscreen shoot in fact, with same grainyness present.

I wasn’t operating the camera, and that was also shot with a Letus Extreme so I didn’t want to use that as the best example I had. (I’ve read that somehow the Letus can put more stress on the codec and enhance grain) and I really didn’t want that variable in this discussion. So forget I even mentioned it 🙂

But I found some other footage shot outside.

I can’t rembember all the settings. It was shot a while back – but it was really bright so I’m pretty sure I used both the internal ND as well as a smaller aperture.

https://www.filemail.com/dl.aspx?id=MKTMOSFDVNMEOOT

Its not as grainy as the dark footage, but there is noise in the leaves (for the lack of a better word) and trunk of the tree.

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Hi!

Well yeah. This shoot was just a corner with a reading-light being the only source of light – so this ranges from overexposed to complete black. The idea was to get the whole range of values. The shot looks horrible 🙂

Are you saying the shot would have less grain if the shot was lit so that I wouldn’t need to have the camera wide open?

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“I don’t get this at all. You’re assuming the default . . . on any camera, would be ideal for any situation. It couldn’t be farther from the truth. It’s why most modern professional cameras have Picture Profile type systems.”

I’m sorry, that not what I wanted to express at all. I only ment that I feel I should be able to turn a camera on (with stanrd settings) and get the “default” amount of grain.

“Certainly some camera are inherently more prone to noise than others but, depending on your point of reference, the EX series is on the low side, competitive with some cameras in a higher price class.”

I’m sure this is true. I’m only saying, that I feel the noise I’m getting is way more than I feel everyone else is getting. So I was backing that statement up with the feeling I have with wanting to turn things on and only getting default noise.

“Which, if memory serves me, might be STD3 by default (someone feel free to correct me on that but it’s pretty easy to tell). It may not be the best profile for your shooting circumstance.”

So your saying that some PP produce more grain than others (in certain lighting conditions??