[Mario Rodriguez]

Used FCP 7 for years… loved it….

Used PP CS6 & CUDA and loved it… amazingly fast on mix formats on same timeline, no transcoding, everything is real time, effects, changes… you name it that is really very impressive… but… very slow in other things and buggy as hell… Adobe Media Encoder can become your worst nightmare. I had to reboot my MacBook Pro 17″ more times in the weeks I was using PP CS6 & AME that in the last 5 years together…

After the PP CS6 fiasco I decided to give FCPX a try… I have used it a couple of times since it’s launched, but my iMac was too slow for it… so I wondered how it would be in my MacBook Pro 17″ i5 2.5Ghz 4GB RAM.

The funny thing is that I tried it just before jumping to PP CS6 and FCPX was too slow. To use CUDA with PP CS6 I had to upgrade the MacBook Pro Nvidia driver, well after the Nvidia driver upgrade FCPX suddenly just flies…

So now I must say I’m blown away by FCPX 10.0.8, it is fast, responsive, easy to use, it feels like natural, everythingjust flows… building titles is easy, transitions are easy, stabilizing clips is just one click away, it closes and opens fast, exporting is really fast… it is funny but now PP CS6 feels like old stuff…

I’m very impressed with how stabile FCPX has become… I guess many FCP7 users will make a similar trip like me, try FCPX do not feel at home, go to PP CS6 (or Avid) be impressive at first with CUDA and then see that mmmm… it is too buggy or slow in many other things and then try again FCPX and see… woauuu… FCPX is a really cool software to use.

At that end the best is to try for yourself and not just believing what others people say.

I’m also amazed how opinions are changing again about FCPX. At the beginning many editors hated it and now I see very positive opinions and reviews about it… I would say FCPX will slowly again conquer it’s lost ground, it is a matter of time, and the new Adobe CC will help FCPX to get back adopters… not to speak about the huge internal Avid issues with the company close to bankruptcy.

[Mario Rodriguez]

Finally I decided to give FCPX a chance…. what a change… everything works as a charm, absolutely any issues whatsoever, editing is much fluid, stabilizing works with any clip at a click of a button (no nesting required), exporting the render is super fast, just a couple of seconds… and compressor works, as always, perfect. Titling is very fast and dynamic, the overall experience is that it is fast to make everything within FCPX. BTW I experienced an immense push performance after updating the NVIDA card with the latest NVIDIA driver, suddenly FCPX worked 20x faster after updating the driver.

I’ll give PP CS6.5 or 7 a chance again, but right now I’m done with it… It is an excellent editing platform and have improved a lot, but in my case it is still too buggy, even with CUDA on it is slow in many things and my Mac hanged and hanged too many times when using AME together with it.

On the other site I’m very impressed with FCPX the current version 10.0.8 is super responsive and really stable and also much cheaper, buy once and use as much and in as many as you want, it is becoming now very good reviews and gets updated with great new features every 3 or 4 months…

I’m happy I found a working solution.

[Mario Rodriguez]

Avid will become the Blackberry of Video Editing Software… changed too late it’s policy and I would say the two years of “FCPX Beta” situation until 10.0.08 has helped them to get some new customers flying from Apple. But it is just a matter of time and FCPX will get it’s place again in the market. Apple is toooooo big to be oversight and is updating and updating FCPX every 3 to 4 months with great new features. You can only do that when you have a lot of money and Apple has plenty of it to get back it’s market slowly… they are not in hurry.

So tell me why should I pay $999 “per license” to edit with Avid? what can I do with Avid MC that I’m not able to do with FCPX for $700 less. And If I have 10 machines, we are talking of $9.700 less. You could say that for some big network SAS oriented companies, Avid is the way, but how many customer are those? 200? and Avid MC is the entry product, if you want the Symphony we are talking about big bucks here. Again what can Symphony do that FCPX can beside network editing? Adobe just announce also a network editing tool for PP CS6… at a much cheaper price.

Avid is dying, slowly or fast, but dying, it will be impossible to maintain their marketing strategy and fight agains Adobe and Apple on the long term. They are still too pricy just because Apple and Adobe are selling it’s software at bottom prices (specially Apple) and customers make their math. Hollywood producers alone won’t be enough to feed such a big monster. Avid must get smaller, sell divisions, forget about some products lines and concentrate on something that makes them earn their money. But as said, Avid MC and specially Symphony on the long term will be a death software, you like or not. Same as Blackberry, once business king now just a hot potato, they changed too late, same as Avid.

My own case.

Edited for years in FCP7 (as most of us) FCPX came out… tracks where gone, everybody screaming, there was no way to work with it… full of bugs everywhere and you needed it a brand new machine. No company can stand such a change but Apple, with it’s huge amount of cash can stand such a transition time without blinking, they know customers will be back again new or old ones.

OK… so I kept working with FCP7, then came PP CS6… wonderful piece of software, installed it and it works just as FCP7 but even better in many ways. But there are two problems. It is also full of bugs, slow in many ways even with CUDA, exporting renders can become a nightmare and it became now subscription software.

Got fed up from PP CS6 bugs, so tried again FCPX and you know what? I love it now, stable, fast, fresh, it just works, pay once use it everywhere, no license limits, no paying for updates, no subscription. Once you go through the new FCPX paradigm wall you understand how cool is this software. And so will be the way of many other producers, go to Avid or PP and years later back again to Apple

Give it some time and Apple will be back again… just a matter of time.

I’ll be using both, PP and FCPX as most editors do for living. But it will be a very interesting fight among the three companies.

[Mario Rodriguez]

Hello,

I found where was that issue and was caused it.

In Premiere Pro CS6 you cannot apply the Warp Stabilizer filter to a clip in a sequence if this clip does not match the main sequence settings. So you have to nest the clip, but that actually does not work in the practice, as PP CS6 won’t do anything with that clip when nested (another bug).

So I created a new sequence which settings matched those clips I wanted to apply the Stabilize filter and once done I nested those clips and got that nested sequence into the main sequence. That works but when you do that then you get that error when you want to export a rendered sequence with that nested sequence.

So… again I decided to do it in a different way and not use those clips at all. Then that error message got away.

But now I got a completely different issue. Is that I cannot get a rendered video when exporting. I have tried with a 20s clip from main sequence from different spots and get same result (using In and out) is that rendering never goes further as 50% or first pass, and repeats the first pass over and over again and then it stops after hours and hours of rendering.

This happens with Vimeo settings but same thing when exporting to let’s say ProRes LT or by direct export. Rendering never finishes.

If I’m not able to get a video out on my edit. I’m not able to do anything. I was really happy with PP CS6 & CUDA but this issue is crazy.

I have two options, get a 30 days trial of Sorenson Squeeze and get the job done exporting the sequences to Sorenson (in case that works) using their pluing or redo the project in FCPX. I’m in the first part of the project so it wouldn’t be such a big work. I’m not applying color corrections or any effects it is pure editing, so that I could edit it directly in H.264 in FCPX without transcoding it to ProRes… but it seems ridiculous that after all I cannot get my video out of PP CS6…

Any ideas?

Editing on a MacBook Pro 17″ i5 2.5Ghz 4GB RAM ML 10.8.3 and using latest PP CS6 Suite with all updates applied

Thanks
Mario

[Mario Rodriguez]

Same issue here (files are in an external USB drive) did you find a fix for this?

Thanks
Mario

[Mario Rodriguez]

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Mario