Marcus Moore
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We’re sick… SICK people!
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The spread is really wide on existing MacPro RAM ’cause that’s REALLY old-style RAM. And for some strange reason Apple hasn’t deprecated the price on components. Just like existing MacPro GPUs are WAAAAAYYYY overpriced via Apple.
A brand-new iMac, to config to 32GB RAM will cost you $600.
Via OWC, it’s like $380 bucks. Still less, but not less than half.
Less less than it had been before.
😉
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I’d love to see a real breakdown on what components are affecting what aspects of FCPX and Motion (or other applications). I think this would help a lot of people determine where their pain points are, and their money is best spent.
As far as I know-
SSD – In general has provided an amazing speed boost which affects application launching times and general “snappiness” of the OS. As long as it’s not more than 80% full (or is that a slowdown that only affects spinning discs?)
RAM – I’m a bit foggy on this. If you don’t have enough it can lead to lots of spinning beachballs.
GPU (and VRAM) Rendering, Open GL performance, (some exporting?)
CPU – this is where I’m not sure the benefit I’m getting out of it. How multi-core aware are FCPX and Motion? What does that affect in real usage?
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OWC already has a teaser image up saying they plan to have 2013 MacPro RAM ready as soon as they can test it.
The savings are not insignificant, but not compulsory for me.
I think you’ll be able to save just over $200 for 32GB RAM and about $450 for the full 64GB, based on similar info for iMac upgrades.
I had a hellish RAM upgrade last year that took me a week to fix. That $450 I’m saving is less than 1 days work, so I can rationalize just having the machine show up ready to go.
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Well I hope it’s not guessing. I’m really not try to lead anyone down the garden path here, and I’ll definitely be disappointed in my Apple rep if he’s given me inaccurate pricing info.
Let’s look at it like this-
the $4,000 machine is 6-core, 256GB SSD, 16GB RAM, and D500s.
my $7,500 config ($7,700 Canadian) was 8-core, 512GB SSD, 64GB RAM, and D700s.
If my info is correct, then the SSD bumps are $500 for 512GB, and $1000 for 1TB. And RAM is $600 for 32GB, and $1,200 for 64GB. I think those things are pretty sensible since they line up with similar BTO options on the iMac.
So, the the price difference between the $4,000 machine and my $7,500 config is $3,500.
Take $500 and $1,200 off for the RAM and SSD, and that means that COMBINED, the jump to 8-core and D700s is $1,800. As I mentioned to Andy above, you just don’t drop the price for the new components on top of the existing config. You get value back on the CPU and GPUs you’re replacing.
How exactly that $1,800 increase is split between the CPU and GPUs I’m not sure- I’m killing myself now not pricing out a few more configurations that would seemingly have filled in the gaps.
But your 8-core+D500s+32G+500G has to be at least $5,000 adding the just RAM and SSD bump. So you might be right that bumping the GPUs is the lion’s share of that $1,800 value I mentioned, and perhaps bumping to the 8-core is only going to cost you another $500-
brining you to a total of $5,500.
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That’s the one place I think I can save myself some $$$. The boot disc is going to be for OS and applications only. The extra thing right now for me is my iTunes library, which I’ll be pushing off to a dedicated disc. That being the case the 512GB option will do me just fine, and I can save $500.
The other place will be the 8-core vs 12-core processor. Unless I see a substantive performance increase application test from someone like Barefeats, That will knock the price down another $1500.
That 8-core, 500GB, 64GB RAM, and D700s machine was priced for me at $7,700. Which leave me a bit of room since I’ll have to buy some displays. Probably refurb Thunderbolt ACDs unless they offer something in a 4K flavour…
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I hear you. I was one of the insane maniacs to pay $1500 for the 750GB SSD in the last 17″MBP.
I know that the 32GB RAM upgrade on the current iMac is $600, or $400 from OWC.
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What I’m saying about “additive pricing” is that when you upgrade from the D500 to the D700- the add-on price of the D700s = D700s minus D500s. It’s the difference, not one on top of the other.
It’s already pretty clear that Apple is getting great deals on these components-
If you look at the difference between the 3K and 4K configs, you’re paying $1,000 more for the 6-core CPU, plus a bump to the 2x D500s. MSRP of the 6-core CPU alone is $500, and estimates on the D500’s are in the $1,300 range. The only way that makes sense is if Apple’s price on the AMD components is WELL below MSRP.
As for the RAM, I’m just relaying the info. $1,200 for 64GB.
$1,000 for 1TB SSD.
And that’s what I said- WOW. And that what the Apple guy said he’d been hearing all morning.
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Maxed out only has one meaning. Everything in the machine to it’s highest spec.
And yes, under 10K. The price I was given by Apple was $9,700 Canadian. So based on cross border price adjustment, it will likely be US$9,500.
You’re basing your price on the D700 GPUs on the listed MSRP. I guarantee you that’s not what Apple’s paying, and it won’t be what you’re paying.
And as for the RAM, going from 16 to 32GB was $600, and to 64GB was $1200
The other thing to consider is that pricing on the $4,000 configuration isn’t additive. You don’t just add the cost of the new components ON TOP of that price, you also remove the cost of the components you’re replacing.
I don’t know why this info isn’t out in the world. I wasn’t the first person this guy called yesterday, and he had more to call after me. But I haven’t see any other sign or news about these BTO pricing options.
But these are the prices Apple gave me.
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Try to do a bit of reverse engineering here, since I unfortunately didn’t ask about every config possible.
The upper standard config is $3999- 6-core, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD, D500s
The RAM will cost you another $600 (from Apple, maybe $400 from OWC)
The bump to 512GB SSD should be 500 I think.
And doing some reverse calculations I think the 8-core CPU will be a $1300 bump.
So that would give you a total of about $6,400.