Liam Tain
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32g ram, nothing open, fresh start up of PC problem happens switching just to the desktop even.
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no, I dont generally work with a lot of source footage. But it does it even when AE is freshly started with no comp open no footage imported.
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From what I understand you are correct about the IGP, but you mentioned you were getting a dedicated card, so you’d never actually use the IGP anyway. I think I had been looking at an older 1245, I think v1 may have been an 1155 socket.
If EEC ram doesn’t matter to you, and over clocking (not even a little) will never be taking place, (taking IGP out of the picture) the difference in the chips is pretty much:
4770 = 5-10% faster (without over clocking)
1245v3 = 5-10% cheaper.Like I said xeons are meant to be server chips, sometimes run on a mutil CPU board. I don’t know if it’ll play. Ice with a dedicated GPU, I honestly don’t know anyone that’s every run a server chip (AMD or Intel) on a desktop. You shouldn’t have any issues, but you can always check the website of your GPU manufacturer for conflicts.
If you’re still unsure, err on the side of caution and go with the 4770.
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Xeons are mainly used for servers/very heavy workloads. The two biggest differences in those chips that will affect your build:
4770 = 1150 mobo and non EEC ram.
Xeon 1245 = 1155 mobo and EEC ram.Performance wise (on paper) they’re basically the same chip. In reality I think the 4770 will perform better for the intended use. Unless the system is going to be rendering all day, every day, nonstop, it’s not going to make full use of a Xeon. price wise I think the Xeon is a little less, but I think you might lose those savings by having to switch your mobo and ram. If it were me, I’d stick with a 4770, i don’t think the system would benefit from a server chip vs a consumer chip in any way other than a price sticker on the chip.
Sorry for the lack of response, I didn’t get a message saying you’d posted again, only looked back at this thread by chance (last time I leave the “just this message” button checked).
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The M500s are excellent performers in the SSD ring, right up there with the samsung 840s, and they offer better security options. I’d consider ditching the 480 SSD and getting a larger HDD, again to save a few bucks, a good 7200 rpm (I like WD black series myself) will get you a lot more storage space for the money, or compromise and get a 10k RPM, I think velociraptors are still around? I wholeheartedly support the SSD for OS and programs though, I got the EVO myself (slightly better performance in the 120 range). You might also consider a hybrid drive for the storage/cache disk? Or split the difference get a 120 for OS/programs a 120 for cache, and a couple of 1 or 2TB for storage and backups? But in the interest of keeping things simple, the less drives the better.
The 4570 is a solid performer for a CPU, the cost-benefit ratio might not be worth the extra $100 if you don’t plan to make use of more than 4 cores. In fact in small single core tasks the 4570 is slightly faster than the 4770. It will also help keep things simpler for your friend, once you start using hyper threading you have to worry more about ram allocation etc etc blah blah stuff even I hate worrying about. But if you find there’s an extra $100 left in the budget and it’s burning a hole in your pocket, I’d consider either bumping up the ram to 32gb? 16gb is the least amount you’d want to run with a 4770, but it’s good for the 4570.
Have you checked out PCpartpicker? It’s a good resource to track your build and it will track costs showing you the best commonly found prices on your components. I prefer getting as many bits from one place to save shipping, but it could also help keep funds in the pocket.
I think you’ve got a solid machine on your hands though, watch out for the mistake I almost made though the mobo I bought only has SATA ports, and the optical drives I owned before were all IDE, would have made using that windows DVD darn hard to install, almost did to catch it. Phew.
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Having built a few systems in my time ( I just finished my first editing build) I can tell you if you aren’t planning to Overclock, you don’t need gaming/OC ram. Ditch the gskill, and look at Crucial. Their parent company micron has been in the business quite awhile, the ram is stable, inexpensive and reliable. If you use their ram finder tool they guarantee the ram to work. I’d suggest going to the website, using the tool, finding the right ram, then checking out newegg or the like and getting it less expensive still (be wary of amazon, often a search there will bring up similar ram but not what you’re looking for.)
The money you can save on ram could move you from a 4570, into a 4770 (not 4770k, again don’t plan to Overclock no need to spend the money) hyper threading is always a good thing.
Also the stock cooler that comes with the CPU will be fine for non OC. Save you a bit there.
Keep in mind that you want the over estimation on the PSU, a PSU never puts out what it’s rated for. Maybe consider going from the CX500 to an HX650?
The editing system I just built cost me $1560 and that’s: everything from case to OS, including a new DVD drive. If you’d like id be happy to help you pick out components to keep it $1300 or less and form a solid system.
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I’ve never used SSDs in a build before, I’ve been reading that constant writing and erasing will shorten the life span?Maybe I’ll shift the budget around and incorporate an additional smaller SSD just to use as disk cache? Keeping the 1tb HDD for storage and output.
Would there be enough of a benefit of using a dedicated SSD vs the space on the 7200rpm HDD to warrant the additional purchase?
I’ve been debating between 16 and 32 for ram, “oh I could just add some more in later” “who REALLY needs 32gigs” but I feel myself tipping into the 32 column for sure now.
Thanks for the input Walter.