[Keith Dubose]

Reason my file is big is kinda complicated. Started my project with SD, but in the middle of it I got an HD cam to finish it with but still had to condense the nice stuff to SD when I edited in Final Cut/VisionLab.

I want the file size to either match or play at its max specs for whatever the bluray can allow for it. And everytime lately that I’ve set the settings for this in Encore or Encoder, it keeps saying it’ll be 18gb or something and then the iso comes out as 6 or 7gb. I don’t want that.

My file size is 13gb for a 92 min film. I want it to fill the disc at its max specs possible and have the file size right.

It actually worked on earlier attempts when I used the trial version of Encoder and on an old Encore 5.5 but for some reason on the newer stuff, its downresing the file size that it claims its conforming to.

However since I don’t have Encore working probably on the mac (which these files were created on) I’m painstakingly trying to put them on the PC which does have Encore, then put these files on to where they don’t have to transcode and just make the iso and then burn that, but it won’t let me because of this error that keeps coming up.

I understand its kinda overkill what I’m wanting, but the numbers, filled space and everything just make me feel better about presentations. That’s why I want it.

[Keith Dubose]

[Keith Dubose]

I have. On a plasma, lcd and a new 4k tv. They look decent enough on dvd but the playback on the computer looks way better. And so far the bluray looked better in some areas than the dvd on the same formats. It’s kinda complicated I’ll admit.

But eventually I may have to try what you said with putting a lossless codec file of my film through premiere, doing the whole export to m4v from there, and seeing what that does.

[Keith Dubose]

I see. And yes I knew that it wouldn’t play on dvd players. I was specifically referring to Blu-Ray players.

What I’m trying to do is to get it to play as crisp and nice as the mov is playing it on quicktime on either the mac or the pc.

And since dvd only holds 4.7 GB (or 8.5 on Dual Layer) I thought that theoretically speaking a bluray would handle my file at “full quality.”

I never tried 6 mbps on a dvd as I was told by several peers to go at 25 mbps on my first encore burns years ago. And those def looked good enough but on several shots, they werent as clear as they were on computer playback.

Some of the bluray tests I’ve done have slightly improved visuals on some of those shots already. But since I haven’t done it through the premiere or media encoder way yet I won’t know until I try it your way and the other way.

And I’ll just admit that I”m a bluray fan. I get it, I should’ve done this thing all in HD, but like I said I was limited to what I had to work with. All I’m trying to do is present what I was able to do in its best presentation I can.

I will definitely do an encode with what you’re suggesting here and see if it helps. Thank you again for explaining things a bit further here.

PS

Although what are the differences between VBR 1 & 2 and 4.1 vs 3.1??

[Keith Dubose]

So I’ve done some calculations here on the 12mbps rate you’re recommending here via Media Encoder and its actually bringing the file size down to just above 8GB when the file is really 13.2 GB.

But when I do the custom Blu-Ray Legacy preset, it allows me to customize the mbps over 12 all the way up to 35 which then makes my 13.2 mov file 24.242GB. just under a full bluray capacity.

But then again, you’re saying it won’t have any difference on quality and may cause some play ability issues on some players?

[Keith Dubose]

Also what does the 3.1 to 4.1 level determine on the burn?? I’ve always been using 4.1 on the suggestion of my peers.

[Keith Dubose]

Thanks for explaining things a bit further here.

So basically you’re telling me that I cannot use 30-35mbps with what i have?? but rather a lower setting for better compatibility?? (For the record, most of my burns have played on 4 different players including PS3 and 4). Although the other players seem to play the film at better quality than the PS products for some reason.)

Its funny because most people have all told me to use the higher setting and use VBR-2. I’d also really like to understand better what the difference between vbr-1 and 2 is cuz googling it didn’t really explain it too well.

As far as going back to re-export things, Im not sure if I’ll be able to but will look into it. Essentially I just really want my original mov file to play just as crisp as my mac plays it on a physical format if possible.

Also what about transcoding my media files on Media Encoder first, then dumping them to Encore and set them to do not transcode so it just writes??