Karin Muller
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Update: When I look at my video clips in Quicktime, it says that they start at 00:00:00:00. It’s possible that the compression settting I was using reset the original time code.
Could the problem be that the video clips goes from zero to 55 minutes and the time code goes from 1 hour to 1 hr. 55 minutes? If so, can I fix this in DVD Pro (reset the time code on the video clip?) and if not, how to I keep the original time code settings when I export and compress the FCP clip? Can I go into the text version of the closed caption file and just change all the time code manually?
Thank you!
KarinKarin Muller
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I exported two HDV one-hour video clips from FCP as QT files.
(Time code on both clips started at 01:00:00:00)
I then compressed them using Apple Pro Res and compressor.
I imported them into DVD Pro 4 and created a menu with two tracks, one for each clip.
I compiled and burned the DVD and tested it on four players. It works perfectly.
When the scc files arrived from the caption house, I moved them onto my Mac. They get read by default as color correction files. They do not import into DVD Pro 4 (error reads wrong file format) but when I point to them using the “other” tab on each track, they are recognized.
I opened them using text edit (thank you, Mike!) and they start at 1:00:00:00 and go to 1:55:00:00, as they are supposed to.
I then build the DVD. It almost immediately kicks me out with the error message about data not falling within time code range.
I’ve tried changing the start time on the time line, added more video, etc. Only once did it allow the compile to finish. When I played the resulting DVD I got closed caption starting at 62 minutes. I could not come up with a rational explanation for that number, since none of the clips were that long or added up to that length.I know this is supposed to be easy but I’ve tried over 100 builds with various iterations and I cannot figure out why I am getting that error. The exported video clips should start at 1 hour, the cc files start at 1 hour, and I have even tried setting up the timeline to start at 1 hour…
Thank you! Merry Christmas, everyone!
Karin
Karin Muller
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Would you be willing to use my email address: karin@karinmuller.com or would you rather keep the thread posted? I appreciate your help either way.
I originally thought the timecode issue was DVD Pro timeline based and so I figured if I put several hours of video on the timeline and then gradually cut them back, I would find out where the cc file timecode started and ended. That method didn’t work and the results aren’t even logical. I’m afraid the cc timecode start may be at 1:00:00:00. My video clip, which I exported from Final Cut Pro, seems to start at zero (even though the sequence I exported it from started at 1:00:00:00). Is there any way to change the start point of a video clip once it is imported into DVD Pro? I noticed that when I changed the timeline to asset-based and then started it at 1 hour, the clip appeared to start at 1 hour as well – but I still got the same error message.
I’m utterly baffled.
Thank you, Mike. And on the eve of the holidays, no less!
Karin
Karin Muller
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Thank you, Michael! I figured that out shortly after I posted by setting the timeline to start at 10 hours and realizing that it made no difference. Timeline and video clip both now start at 00:00:00:00.
If I drop the hour-long episode onto my timeline three times and then lay down the cc file, it’s within limits. when I cut the last half hour off, it still works. The moment I take the third hour off (they are all the same clip) then it tells me the cc time code is out of limits. This makes no sense to me.
Any suggestions? We’re going to premiere nationwide in less than three weeks so I’m very worried…
Thank you again!
Karin
Karin Muller
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Agreed on all points! It took us months to figure out the proper codecs to export Final Cut clips into Premiere, Vegas, Avid (this was the worst), FCE, imovie, moviemaker, etc. Without my brilliant friend and volunteer, I would have been utterly lost. It’s still not easy, but I think we’ve got it pretty much worked out. If anyone reads this and wants to try beta testing – I would be thrilled to hear from you!
Karin
Karin Muller
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Thank you for doing this, Fernando! As it turns out, someone did respond to that post and has been INCREDIBLY helpful in coming up with formats. I don’t know what I would do without him, and make sure I always bring him Toblerone from Switzerland and spices from Zanzibar and anything else I can think of. We got it down to three formats and ask the teachers to test 6-second clips before they decide which one to use. Our next step is to lower the resolution sufficiently so that 2 hours of footage fits onto a DVD. Never a dull moment!
What editing software do you use?
Thank you again!
Karin
karin@karinmuller.comKarin Muller
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I appreciate your feedback – you’re not the only one who has suggested downgrading to DV. I think we will in future offer both an HDV version and a DV version. Surprisingly, of the 40+ schools who signed up this first year, not a single one has asked for DV. I will definitely put this question on the end-of-year evaluation and see what kind of feedback we get.
Thank you for the suggestion!
Karin Muller
Karin Muller
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Dear David,
Thank you for responding so quickly!
The schools send a hard drive and I load 450 gigs of clips onto them (37 hours of HDV footage). It’s rather important to stick to HDV since this is a selling point of the project – hi-def, professional footage shot by a Nat. Geo field producer. I may be able to create a second, DV set of the clips for lower-end schools but I already have close to 20 hard drives with various versions and backups and don’t really want to go any further along that path. I will be setting up an online editing version for schools that are not up to speed technically.
Does this help? Would a phone call be appropriate? My email address is karin@karinmuller.com
Thank you again!
Karin
Karin Muller