[Julian Lalinde]

Hello,

Been investigating and running some tests and got this information. I guess there is no easy way of managing the Phantom’s files.

“u will not be able to match timecode to flex on the raw data via your aja ki pro.

Phantom really has no timecode.

If i was you, i would forget about the ki pro for dailies, as without timecode it can lead to alot of problems.

Download the raw data, and get a digital lab to transcode the footage to timecoded ofline files of any type for example pro res, in this process the timecode will be striped.

after the edit or when selects are done the digilab should be able to match the timecode to online files like DPX.

But u must always think about the online workflow when making offline files.

I use a machine called a clipster and this can transcode phantom footage at upto 100fps to offline files, and online files, i can even drop an edl in and it will extract dpx files or similar after the offline or selects are done and only transcode the required files from the raw.

Timecode and phantom is a big problem and it will not be an easy or a cheap solution.

good luck”

This was a response from a DIT in england, if anyone has other suggestions preferably less expensive, it would be great to hear them.

Chief External Technician/Technical Producer
Congo Films
Bogota, Colombia
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[Julian Lalinde]

Thanks a lot will give it a go, and post my results.

Julian Lalinde

Chief External Technician
Congo Films
Bogota, Colombia
congofilms.tv

[Julian Lalinde]

Hi,

Thanks for the quick response. That means that at the moment there is no way of getting the time code from the time code port in the back of the Phanomt Flex?
The method you are currently using is still with the original .cine files, importing them via gluetools info FCP, right?
With the update you mention, would it be possible to do the workflow I mentioned?
eg.

Flex-playback- Aja Ki Pro connected via SDI capturing 422 proxies. Time code cable connected to TC port on camera to TC port on KiPro.
Resulting in having easy to manage 422(PX) files for editing, which have SMPTE time code, so that an edl is made to conform with the original raw .cine clips.

Let me know if this is already possible, or we have to wait for your update.

Regards,

Julian Lalinde

Chief External Technician
Congo Films
Bogota, Colombia
congofilms.tv

[Julian Lalinde]

“We provide a Phantom Cine Toolkit for FCP. It does a number of things which will make your editorial life better. One of these is adding a Time Code track to the Phantom Clip, which will make it possible to conform with Phantom footage.”

Hello Robert,

I wanted to ask exactly how are you adding a time code track to the Phantom Clips? I am working in a Rental house, we have two Phantoms and have different types of external recorders like, Nano Flash, Aja KiPros, and CODEX soon the Gemini. We have bee looking at ways to make the post poduccion process easier by providing offline material which they can later reconnect with the original .cine files. The main problem is that we don’t have a time code track for them to be linked with. We find the .cine files count frames from minus zero to a value dependent on the clips size. The Aja recorders dont record a time code either.
We know of the conversion possible from .cine files to quicktime, but this is very time consuming as it takes sometimes a whole extra day of conversion. It would be ideal if the offline clips could be obtained at the end of the day on set.
We and a lot of post production houses already have gluetools, any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Julian Lalinde

Chief External Technician
Congo Films
Bogota, Colombia
congofilms.tv