Jules Bowman
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Perhaps you weren’t holding it right.
You’ve got to go to where the puck is going to be.
I mean if you’re scared to embrace change… Well!
Plus the X.X.1 upgrade is going to be AWESOME!
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Please don’t ever do things the FCX way. The thought strikes fear into my heart. I’m genuinely relieved and excited about CS6. I really appreciate you listen to and are trying to accommodate FCP7 user requests. Apple do it their way and the acolytes love being ‘shown the light’ but for those of us that prefer the more atheistic sensible path we’ve now got you. Stay with us. The hockey puck isn’t going to be landing on a basketball court any time soon. Hockeyball is a fad. You can be an international sport. Please do..
Many thanks.
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No magnetic timeline. Still got tracks. They obviously weren’t holding it right when they were designing it.
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Didn’t the editor start by stating the footage was some stock shots thrown together and he didn’t care about them but rather they were just there to show the CS6 features.
In which case I don’t see what is embarrassing for him. I guess attention to detail is important and the detail there was that the edits weren’t an example of his ability whatsoever.
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Daniel, did you make the I Hate Mum doco for the bbc featuring Oxleas CAMHS?
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Hey Dennis.
Thanks for the gee-up 🙂 I’m very aware Adobe are taking the opportunity here to try and accommodate those of us who weren’t on board with you before… which is admirable of you given you don’t owe us anything really. And I appreciate you still have your own vision for PP. And as I said, i’m going to have a proper look when it comes out.
In fact I was talking with a friend/collaborator about this today and said to him when it comes out i’m going to allocate a week to solely sitting down and working with CS6. I tried learning whilst doing a music video which was quite complicated in terms of what we are trying to do and it was the wrong project to jump in with because i simply don’t know enough of what I am doing in PP and i felt like someone had removed one of my hands and tied the other behind my back when all i wanted to do was focus on the edit.
So PP will definitely get a real shout. I mean the fact you have a Save As option puts you head and shoulders above the ‘other’ offering as far as i’m concerned 🙂 Oh, and I know they are antiquated and some may say redundant in this brave new editing world we have been shown, but you have tracks too. Go on! Get out of here! Tracks! Who’d have thought?
I will go over to the feature/feedback area after playing with CS6. I don’t feel I have used 5.5 enough to make comments as some may already be there just hidden, but off the top of my head things that really frustrated me were (and this is more for your curiosity I guess):
* I do hope you have a keyboard layout/map for allocating keystroke shortcuts: that list is a bit… hmmm
*There’s a shortcut which allows you to cut through all tracks at once whilst you’re playing in the timeline, but it stops the playhead when you hit it, which makes adding cuts to the beat on a whole track frustrating as i keep having to hit play again, whereas in FCP i can just play through the timeline and cut all tracks where i want. So I hope that changes 🙂
* I do hope your copy and paste attributes ends up as evolved as FCP (as in selecting which area of attributes I want pasted) and I can allocate the Q, W, E keys to copy, paste and remove attributes respectively as that is a huge time saver for me.
* I couldn’t find it though it must be there but i have made the f5 and f6 keys my lock all video tracks and lock all audio tracks so i can lock all of one so it won’t bring the bit i don’t want when i drag into the timeline. Also, sometimes i want to delete all the audio from a series of clips and for me it is easier to hit f5 (lock video) and just delete all the audio in one go.
In fact, i’m sure this is in there so if anyone actually knows and can point it out that’d be great. Google didn’t throw up a solution for that though i was probably asking it the wrong thing.
So yes, thanks for the reply and yes I am looking forward to it, and I do want to get on with it as I am aware from what people have said that it kicks arse within its backend, but for me at least editing in FCP was so very simple and intuitive and logical and sensible to the point where I am currently remaining with FCP7 despite it being 32 bit because it is so intuitive. And perhaps the things I would like and need in PP aren’t necessarily what others would want or need because of the way I edit, i guess, so i’m willing to wait and see what you’ve done before piping up in depth.
I am aware that others would watch how I edit and possibly scratch their heads, but it works for me (eg: i have never used multi-cam in FCP because when i do 5 or 6 camera edits i like laying each on a track and reducing each to 35% and then using the cut all shortcut to cut where i want and I remove the cameras i don’t want. I would hazard a guess that that seems almost masochistic to some, but i like it and it works for me, so I do it that way 🙂
So, we shall see, but I am very much looking forward to it, which is nice given the last year.
Oh, and as an aside to the FC10 or not debate and the Mac vs PC debate, Simon and I were both saying today we are undecided but very much considering moving our work to PCs – I edit and build websites, he does graphic design and motion animation – and keeping our macs for our playtime and web browsing, emails, downloads etc. The third of our team, Pete – audio – has already made that jump and is very happy with his geek made PC. Very very happy in fact.
We don’t believe we are in a post PC world, but it is obvious Apple do, so we are thinking that given we are going to be using computers for many years to come it is probably sensible to be on a platform that is going to support computer users.
I mean does anyone who is serious about editing, or graphic design, or motion animation, or even writing docs longer than 2 paragraphs really want to do it on a tablet? Really? I can barely get to the end of an email on a tablet without losing the will to live and the thought of trying to be pixel accurate with my finger or swipes of my fingers beggars belief. For us we have accepted Apple like being toy makers and selling to consumers. Sure, their toys are great: I am loving the iPad 3 versus my motorola Xoom, but, well…. there’s more to our use of technology than playing 🙂
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ah, fair enough. No, wasn’t being that black and white. I do see Apple as toy makers these days, yes, and rather good at it they are too. But my point was more about Windows versus OSX which I am interested in because I like OSX to a degree but mostly am ‘settled’ in it and to me that ‘settling’ hinders me from transferring over to Windows when it may be better all round (cheaper machines with more power, more easy to change them, apparently Premier runs better in Windows, not at the mercy of Apple and their obsession with secrecy and a ‘post-PC’ world in which most of us don’t actually live, etc etc.)
At the same time I know that there is more available than FC10 on Apple, but it seems even with PP I am limited in the graphics cards available that I would need to benefit from it on a Mac. I guess i’m just getting a tad tired with having Apple want to do everything for me and limiting all my choices. And I’ll never forget and forgive the EOL of what was fundamentally very good and much loved software, because yes, it is going to waste a lot of my time when I switch to something else… time i’d rather have spent sat on my arse on the Heath in the sunshine if truth be told, and it all feels like it could have been very avoidable, as i touched on at the end of my original post.
I’m experimenting with PP5.5 at the moment and I truly hope adobe pull a rabbit out of the hat because at the moment it is making me miss FCP even more (yes, I still use 7 but that point is redundant going forward) by being frustrating in many ways where FCP7 seemed simple. Still, I don’t blame Adobe for that as I still blame Apple for even making me have to try and learn PP 🙂
Silly silly multi-national corporation. Silly.
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I’m confused by your reply. it’s kind of obvious that there are other options other than FC10, and I stated in my very next paragraph that I was considering CS6.
And my point as a whole there was one about switching from OSX to Windows being daunting when i feel ‘safe’ in OSX because being ‘safe’ and ‘familiar’ with OSX doesn’t mean that it is better than Windows for my, and others, needs… but one part of it is that at the moment the thought of trying to replace all the little bits of software with Windows equivalents is off putting in itself.
So I don’t really get the point of your post. Sorry.
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It’s funny, because I prefer editing on tracks and yet according to same I’m scared of the advance of technology by thinking that. some people hey!? Just born muppets I guess.
I have no doubt some prefer the OSX environment. I currently do. But I also think the quoted point has validity in as much as there is a lot of fear based on history. I imagine a stripped out win7 environment where geek machine builders have removed the unnecessary crap from it is a stable and solid one to edit in. And I imagine that there is a chance that one would end up just as happy in it.
Personally my only fear isn’t embracing a new editing paradigm, one which I think is insanely stupid because it has no tracks, but rather leaving the safety of OSX snow leopard and all the software I have built up which enables me to do what I need, not least of all QT7 Pro, which Apple bury deeper and deeper with each new release it seems.
It seems most likely a full transition from FCP7 will happen for me over the next year and to PP6 I would guess, as I’m hoping adobe add the little stuff that fcp7 had that makes editing so much easier for me..and with that transition I will seriously consider moving to a PC as I’ve heard a fair amount of decent feedback about the idea on here and through friends who do music and shifted.
I did recently buy an ipad3 and have to admit for lying in bed reading the web and messing around with games when I’m bored and the such it is much better than my iPhone and my zoom tablet, and I guess that’s the point. Apple are now toy makers and motly good at it..remember, according the apple we are in a post PC world. Not because we are but because Apple can’t be arsed to focus on anything other than iToys and they’re trying to convince us through PR that that is the case. Which by the way, it isn’t.
We still not in a post vinyl age let alone a post cd age so anyone who believes we are in a post pc age because swathes of the middle classes have bought iPads as coffee table toys is off the mark somewhat.
To me, the moment I realised/believed apple were no longer the Apple I loved and whom supported and aided my business was when I had to get a n monitor and their 24″ one, which replaced the beautiful 23″ ones, came with no off button…. And did so because it turns itself off when you turn your mac off, whereas I leave my mac on doing stuff whilst I turn my monitor off so it doesn’t t glow at me whilst I’m doing other things. At this moment I saw apple thinking consumers turn their macs off when they are finished doing email and dicking around on Facebook so who needs an on / off button. Not consumers.
apple, for all their ability, are now just a toy company to all intents and purposes. Which is fine. But what really irks is that the richest company in the world could, without batting an eyelid, have retained a small core pro apps department and developed and sold FCS and ProMacs at break even in terms of finances and it wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference to them. In fact they’d have employed more people so as well as keeping all the creatives who have gone a long way to evolving the ‘cool’ perception consumers have had about apple on board with the apple brand and happy with apple, they’d have been doing something positive for the American economy by reducing unemployment. And this little department wouldn’t have stopped them raking in the cash on their iToys.
That is what p!sses me off the most about this whole fcp10 debacle. Is that they showed no respect for their past and shat on those that were there for them when they needed them.
And just because the sole purpose for a company is to pay shareholders dividends doesn’t mean they have to be arseholes. I believe you can make money and be thoughtful at the same time.
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I find the defenders of FC10 offer up hilarious justifications for defending it, and I thoroughly enjoy the articulate slap downs offered up by joined up editors on here and so I return as a cathartic release of my frustrations about having my self employed life shat on by Apple because they like dumbing down stuff to shift more units. and no, until they refund me the thousands I have spent on my system so I can go CS6 on a PC, I won’t let it go.
plus whenever I hang around on tottenham court road to watch the scientologists in an attempt to comprehend cultish adoration of obvious stupidity I get weird looks and asked to move, so here I can continue that sociological observation without reprise.