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  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 10:59 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    check the specific amounts but I believe we’ll be paying around £45 a month if we pay for a year upfront… it’s around £75 if you do it monthly.

    BUT, as CS3+ owners we can have the first year at £27 a month so even better.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 8:34 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    No no, I believe in God I do believe in God my doubts, my doubts, they aren’t doubts they are the Devil challenging me making me try and falter and stop believing in the Lord all mighty but I do believe in Him I do… despite all the empirical evidence to the contrary.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    FFS. Fine. It is an assumption that FC11 will be charged for. but hey, i’ve learnt from the best because you assume left right and centre mate, not least of all that FC10 will be great at some undetermined point in the future because you know, Apple rock dude.

    Still, it’s an assumption that hold far more weight than Apple never charging for any future versions of FC. You’re the Apple watcher mate, they do that often do they? Stick out software and just upgrade it for free ad infinitum?

    You’d pick a hole in a dying nun’s faith you would.

    Whatever, my point is still valid that I believe Adobes current subscription service with all that it offers for the relatively small outlay in terms of a professional business makes Apple’s offer pale into insignificance. And again, it was in reply to Bill’s doom-mongering.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    Nope, it was that Adobe’s subscription offer, costing £450 per year for almost two dozen top quality apps that more than cover all bases is better than Apple selling FC10, Motion 4 and Compressor 5 for £300 all in, until the next version is made for sale.

    it was in response to Doomsayer Bill who can’t even pay someone other than Apple a compliment without it sounding like the end of the world is nigh round his way.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 7:51 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    I think you missed the meaning of that sentence.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 7:05 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    Instead of spending £1800 every 2 years for the master collection I can spend around £900 every 2 years for the same suite of products, 4 of which I use regularly, 4 others I use now and then and a handful of others will replace apple equivalents over the coming year or just want to have a play with.

    Even if I skip a major upgrade I have still got 4 years of sub before I hit the cost of the physical version. Plus any new apps will be thrown in I’m sure and the speed of change may get quicker in terms of the value of an upgrade.

    I like physical products. I still by vinyl. But this subscription service is a no brainer and I don’t see how our van compare it to the app store and FC10 at $300. That is one product and FC11 will be another $300 or whatever. Master collection is how many? Well at least 10 I will use to one degree or another. And my outlay is still only £450 ( or less) a year. It is £50 a month at most. That’s a tank of petrol. 3 bits of vinyl. A couple of meals out for 2. And it is tax deductible. But more than all that it gives an extensive range of top quality software that is more than anyone can need or use.

    Sure, if all you do is mess around with video and pop things on the web then you don’t need a range of software and perhaps you don’t need to upgrade for 6 years and then buying apps from the app store makes sense. But even I, in my limited mostly one man band set up, uses a lot of different software. Personally i think Adobes sub kicks apple’s app store offer across the park and back again and can’t see any valid argument against that unless all you need is one app over 4 years.

    Plus PP has tracks.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 2:12 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    1- indeed it is, in fact i believe it is only for year one and if you already own CS3 or above.

    2- that’ll probably be the reason all companies give, I accept them, but if we had a truth ray that when zapped at people made them tell the truth, I do believe that companies see UK and just whack a little on because everyone seems to do that. Even our own government think we’re an endless source of disposable income 🙂 Currency conversions can’t, surely, be £4.

    Anyway, I know i’m whining at a brick wall as nothing will come of it and i’m still going to get it because you have the product I want so what am I going to do. but as i said before, it’s less about the money and more about wanting to feel like we’re getting the same treatment the world over, which at the moment it just doesn’t.

    Still, it really isn’t going to stop me 🙂 Am quite looking forward to spending a couple of weeks with my head inside PP as well as exploring some of the other apps i’ve not done so before.

    And yes, £27 pm for a year is still very nice of Adobe given it is £50 pm for a year normally, so the discount because I bought CS4 is appreciated.

    Just love us like you love the North Americans!!! 🙂

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 1:31 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    🙂

    yes, i believe that can be done here too, but i’m a bit left leaning and so I just do my accounts without finding loop holes. Not saying others shouldn’t, friends have registered as a companies and take dividends and pay little to no tax, but i’m quite happy contributing to the social pot.

    Dear Adobe, still want my £40 though. Ta!

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 1:05 pm in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    Sure, it is tax deductible but I’d still rather have £40 in my pocket in cold hard disposable cash. Plus the deductible is still only for the tax rate I pay rather than the tax man giving it all back to me.

  • Jules Bowman

    April 23, 2012 at 11:29 am in reply to: I’m on the Cloud!

    haha, everything seems cheaper than buying it here. Unless you’re in Scandinavia when they do seem a tad more expensive than here.

    The no VAT thing in America makes a little sense of the price difference then, thanks for the info (lucky Americans… 20% stings) but we’re still £4 a month worse off. And really it isn’t so much the money as the principle. I get kind of tired of organisations seeming to think we’re minted over here and charging more, especially as we keep getting told we live in a global village 🙂

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