[Jon Gagnon]

“See, that’s where it goes wrong. When you put the 60i in the 30p, it’s essentially doing a crappy deinterlace. You will notice in my second example that the footage is very soft compared to the first example. In the first example, there’s no pixelation, it’s all a very nicely deinterlaced progressive movie.”

I have 30p and 60i footage don’t have to do mix them and hope for the best? Or deinterlace the 60i prior? I’m confused.

I’ve tried those AE export settings and they were not that good. But i’ll play around with them tomorrow.

capturing with firewire.

[Jon Gagnon]

OK, thanks again.

It looks like I have a proper 30p sequence now and the exported 30p footage from that sequence looks good.

Now there are a few things I will try. First it appears that on the 30p sequence the 60i footage loses the visible scan lines and just becomes more pixelated, so It wouldn’t be necessary to de-interlace. ???

I will try different exports from after effects to see if its possible to have the graphics exported looking as good as they did on a 60i sequence with no compressor.

Also I was exporting using the sequence’s current settings (60i, no compressor) and that quicktime export always looked perfect. (and was usually 3.5GB for a 2.5 minute video) Then I would take that export bring it into visual hub and compress it down to a smaller size, using the WMV setting and Itunes setting (which makes an MP4) However in Visual Hub there is a de-interlace option which I don’t select. So that would mean during my exporting there is no de-interlacing going on.

Because of this I will try exporting the project from a 30p sequence and a 60i sequence and do the usually compression in Visual Hub to see which one looks less pixelated. Because at the moment the graphics from AE look crap in Final Cut so I’m imagining they will look horrible by the time I do all the compression. I need to see is that outweighs the benefits of a proper 30p timeline export.

Either way, I am very thankful for all your help. I’m so close to getting the workflow figured out.

[Jon Gagnon]

Also I dont know why but I have yet to get the 30P footage looking as good as the one u sent on a 30p sequence. In FCP or quicktime it looks bad but the captured source material looks great. Could u send me a screen grab or info on ur sequence settings?

[Jon Gagnon]

ok. Thanks alot for all this.

My only issue is these all have their problems. When I put it on the web does it automatically change it to progressive somewhere along the line? Cause if not my exports from a interlaced timeline look better than these three. I would rather have some clips slightly pixelated then have the interlaced lines that noticeable.

What we’ve been doing is exporting full quality then using visual hub to make them smaller (usually around 25MB for a 2 minute video)

[Jon Gagnon]

Sorry more secrets for you….

I changed the sequence settings to none just prior to exporting because it’s been the only setting where the after effects graphics look good. When I have it set to dvntsc the graphics look pixelated.

here is the link of 30p captured using easy setup

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/617756857/50a9aeb270ccc6b35f88ec00cbce4b98

[Jon Gagnon]

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/617728255/803d6061e1ccb4e6cbcf7ac499a25b3a

30p clip

[Jon Gagnon]

Sorry that was 60i footage.

Would you like me to upload 30P footage?

[Jon Gagnon]

Right now I am using TMTS plugin package filter called smart de-interlace which looks pretty good but I’m open to suggestions.

https://www.yousendit.com/download/Y2o4ek9zR3NlaFR2Wmc9PQ

Here is one second of the same clip, from a progressive timeline and interlaced timeline.

[Jon Gagnon]

Yes and yes to your first question.

In theory I would agree with you but I’ve done exports that would show otherwise.

One export
60i sequence – looks great except of course the shots from one of the cameras that have the interlaced lines which I will then de-interlace.

Two export
30p sequence – everything looks pixelated except for text I’ve made in FCP

Three export
30P sequence with all clips changed from interlaced to none in the clip settings
this did not make a noticeable difference from the 30p sequence.

So my thinking is if the 30p sequence makes everything slightly more pixelated why not put it on a 60i timeline and at least half the camera shots and all the graphics will look their best then when i de-interlace the other cameras shots they’ll look slightly softer and/or more pixelated but not nearly as bad as the footage looks on a 30p sequence.

It doesn’t make sense to me theoretically but I’m looking at exports that look much better from a 60i timeline.

[Jon Gagnon]

The final output is for web.

This is where I get confused. What looks best now is an interlaced sequence but even then the interlaced lines of CAM A footage are very noticable so I’m using a smart de-interlace filter for those camera’s shots which, so far, isn’t looking as bad as i thought it would.

When I put everything on a 30P timeline both cameras look pixelated, although it does obviously get rid of the interlaced line of CAM A.

On top of that I was doing my graphics/moving text in FInal Cut but on a 60i sequence you see the interlaced lines so now I’m doing them all in After Effects.

So as of right now to me doing it all in a 60i timeline is best but I’m willing to try anything.

Thanks again.