Jeff Regan
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Chris, I have two Letus Ultimate 35mm adapters and a Letus B4 Pro 2/3″ relay lens. I don’t think they’re better than the Pro35, but quite similar and much less money when new.
The whole “Full HD” or “Full Raster” thing is just marketing, 720P using AVC-Intra 100 IS full raster. In the days of DVCPRO HD, 720P was limited to 960 horizontal. Now it’s 1280 horizontal, so one could argue that if 720P was considered good in the tape Varicam days, it’s now really good, especially when combined with 10-bit color depth and the efficiency of MPEG4.
As far as spanned clips, I can’t remember if that can be defeated. I have never had an issue with spanned clips in post, at least none that a client has called me about.
The 2700 has more latitude, true Native frame rate recording, a much more sophisticated studio quality codec, Film Rec 600%, more variable frame rates, 32 bit DSP, additional gammas, chroma control, hi-color(not to be used with Film-Rec), color correction in addition to matrix controls, five P2 cards are like carrying a case of tape in the camera, no more cueing of takes, much faster data transfer, meta data, proxy option, CAC–really a big, big step over a legacy tape Varicam.
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Robin,
I got 5x transfer speed with data verification off on a 16 minute test. Please see the NexTo thread above. Obviously, the NexTo has more media flexibility than a P2 only solution, but the MSU10 is more of a rental customer friendly device, I think.
I like being able to slide the HDD tray out of the unit and connect it directly to a computer via dual USB or eSata. Of course, one could have multiple trays with HDD’s or SSD’s to work with on long form projects.
One issue that I have run into, besides not being able to playback clips, is when connecting to an external HDD, my Mac OS formatted drive was not recognized by the MSU10, so it looks like PC formatted drives are necessary, unless using a laptop in between MSU10 and external HDD’s. More testing is needed.
Again, what I would buy for myself is often different than what is best for rental clientele. If there is a problem with data transfer, at least I was using a Panasonic solution, much like always using Sony tape with Sony camcorders–a way to cover oneself.
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Just a couple of notes after some testing of the Panasonic MSU10:
I was able to transfer, via P2 E card, a 16 min. AVC-Intra 100 1080/30PN set of clips to the internal drive with data verification off in 3:00, which is 5x real time.
Same clips with data verification on took 8:30, or a bit slower than 2x real time, similar to MacBook Pro with ShotPut Pro, data verification on using PCD20 via FW800 to two FW800 ext. HDD.
Using the internal 500Gb HDD removed from the MSU10 with dual USB cables into MacBook Pro took 6:35 with the same footage.
Tried to use the MSU10 in host mode with eSata drive, but didn’t work.
Tried to use MSU 10 in hose mode with same drive via USB, device not recognized. This is most likely due to Mac OS formatting. Have to try a PC formatted drive next.
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Chris, yes, SSD and HDD. It is confusing on Panasonic’s own site. There is a pre-configured SSD model, and an HDD model, as well as an empty model.
It definitely will transfer from a P2 card to an external HDD in Host mode. HDD must be under 2TB.
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We have the Panasonic MSU10 with a 500Gb drive, not SSD. This is what came with the unit. This is a very simple device to use, but does not deal with any cards other than P2, does not playback clips, does not transfer to two drives at the same time.
It does do data verification, if wanted, but will slow down transfer. Optimally, with an internal SSD, verification off, it will do 4x transfers.
It is good for rental because it is so simple to use, but limited to P2 only, as noted earlier and no playback is unfortunate–just thumbnails.
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Agreed. AF100 is only around 700 TVL, but I was shocked to see F3 chroma aliasing–albeit not in a real world environment.
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Robin, I have a PCD20 and PCD2, MacBook Pro’s with ShotPut Pro and lots of ext. drives. I recently added a Panasonic MSU10 transfer unit, which is great for the road, and PA proof!
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I don’t have experience with the 27H, but I was amazed at how big a step my 2700 was over my HDX900. 32 bit DSP, Film Rec 600%, AVC-Intra 100 is full raster, 10-bit, which offers an extra stop of latitude due to a lower noise floor.
I have shot a lot with a 3700 and you can turn down the detail more than a 2700, but I prefer the 720P native look as well–kinder to talent.
The P2 work flow has a lot of advantages of course, like Native frame rate recording, bullet proof reliability, and superior codec with AVC- Intra.
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I rather liked that plug-in. The whole piece had a Euro-retro feel to it. Exposures were spot on, everything looked pretty natural, somewhat filmic, IMO.
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That’s me with the Arri Alura for our two AF100’s in rental inventory. The lens is certainly rather large and heavy, a bit pricey at $25K, but a set of low cost Cine primes costs a similar amount and the Alura offers good focal range and speed and at 11″ long and 10 lbs, it’s not that big and heavy.
It’s great not having to change lenses all day long, a lot of clients like changing the focal length during interviews–harder to do with primes.
Proper rod and lens support is essential, but a Sachtler Video 18 or 20 fluid head handles camera, on-board monitor, lens, matte box, follow focus, Hot Rod Cameras AF100 Tuner Kit(w/PL-mount adapter) and Element Technica Dove Tail and Base Plate quite well.
Jeff Regan
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