[Jason Harris]

ok so here we are

i did find a 30.0 fps on one of the videos (this was taken with a TRIPOD) so no camera shake should be apparent

I set up a sequence for NTSC 29.97 (close enough) and outputted a file, i noticed “some ticks” in it but not as bad as before

i also took the SAME file and converted it using MOV quicktime 4:3 same resolotion and same framerate 29.97 fps

the resulting mov file was MUCH smaller, i added some fx and i outputted another version of an flv file

all settings on two files were identical

Please keep in mind i am only trying to find what WORKLS to make do with what we have, if adobe cannot work with this let me know, i have so much editing to do, i would like to try and stick it out, once i get the “ticks and shakes” to go away i think all will be fine

thanks to everyone who helped and is continuing to help me

the original file outputted after edit is here

https://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fe481f081fd73cb20f83d91f6dff7c38e04e75f6e8ebb871

the MOV file converted then outputted after edit is here

https://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fe481f081fd73cb20f83d91f6dff7c38e04e75f6e8ebb871

thoughts!

[Jason Harris]

jon

i do appreciate all your praise

and yes i do have quite a bit of AUDIO experience (being in broadcasting for many years) the video part seems just like an addon to all that, as part of it still is the audio mixing

I will try your suggestions

I will post back

Besides the stutter mistakes can i get your opinion on the vid, i felt i used aDOBE PREMIERE FAIRLY INTUITIVLEY FOR THE FIRST VIDEO!

[Jason Harris]

jon

all footage is taken via readers in teh servers inserting high capacity memory sticks that come from the camcorders (cameras) themselves, a file transfer is done to a folder where the source footage is backed up then the cards are erased

so i ned a 24 frame rate is what your saying, right?

well the sequence should be

640X480 resolution
24 fps

if i am following you lol

ok awaiting, and thanks everyone for getting to the mysterys

we still might ahve some gremlins (is the files supposed to be that small)

[Jason Harris]

ok same issues with me

the outputted file took less then 30 seconds (very impressive or so i thought) and was 90+ mb

I did the quicktime setting in power coverter making sure it stayed at 4:3 and the frame rate was at 24

i put the project (new one in premiere) settings as pal DV and opened a new sequence, the video i got from encoder was all jumpy, but the one i got from power converter was almost perfect (but seemed jsut a BIT slow) who knows

oh one more thing, the converted file out of power pro was only like 3.0 mb, so maybe that setting is not what we are looking for, this outputted a 640X480 video file

[Jason Harris]

jon

im guessing your right by all that

so you think that CS4 is still the way to go (once all files are properly converted that is?

(truth be known we only wanted to edit this footage for web upload lol, didnt know it would ever become so involved, do you think its wise to use CS4 encoder, that is the reason i was really dissapointed with CS4 in the first place SLOW encoding (im talking like 30 minutes for some files)

can i use the power converter with quicktime pal settings?

ITS MUCH FASTER lol

ill try to do one file while i wait for a response

ill post back in a few

[Jason Harris]

ok eric

i picked up power video converter out of our software vault

i see MANY types of outputs and codecs, any suggestions

i see several but ONLY one that says DV on it
https://www.dropfiles.net//files/3036/dvconvert.JPG
hope that helps

looks like we are getting closer to a workable format
even if it takes one extra step

[Jason Harris]

Eric

yeah i know these are low quality cams, so let me ask you this

since we have like 40 HOURs of footage on these things that we need to edit for a documentary,

so lets say we BATCH all files into a “workable format ” INSERT what you would reccommend for settings for converted files here

then use those in Premiere

since i have no idea what settings you used im at a loss, iwe use a converter called BLAZE media pro that does some conversions

let me know what would be easiset (and that test link was awesome, except for crackling in the audio)

looking forward to a possible workaround sicne the premiere pro can make the best piece for us

FYI (they are giving us Canon XL2’s for our next project)

[Jason Harris]

jon

thanks for hanging in with me

as i said f you find anything be sure to let me know, i just ran into a brick wall trying to load avid, i am sure the footage is not “par”” with pro, but we do with what we have, as for ntsc and pal all i know about that is the stuff on settings on a dvd player lol

i know that sounds stupid but alas, my skills come from the audio realm

i can do the vid thing but hangups are painful

[Jason Harris]

jon

i realize its not “industry standard” but this really would be a poor excuse for adobe not to handle it, adobe is supposed to be so “all powerful” that it handles EVERYTHING

reinstalls do not work, and are a waste of time (but we did it 5 times already on each machine, will not go through another unless given very good cause as to why)

it was on a sony cam thats all i know sorry

if adobe cannot “handle” such a simple request, can you give me an idea of a software where they actually let you edit footage on such a simple level

thanks again

[Jason Harris]

eric

yes i agree with you about the fact that source files could help

you can find a zip of them at

https://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fe481f081fd73cb20f83d91f6dff7c38e04e75f6e8ebb871

I really would like to continue working with adobe, it is unlike them to have glitches, and i do love the interface, in the past i have done some great work with them.

I tried vegas pro studio for like 3 hours today, but its very clunky (to each his own) and not overall impressive, loved the way premiere made projects come to life, if i can get this snafu figured out i will probably return to CS3 its more stable, but has all the same features.

Vegas had a god ugly GUI to it!

let me know if you need anything else!