Jamie Franklin
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Name it – Cow Farts – and be done with it…
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And there was still a lot to be desired in 7. It’s not as if the RED workflow improved in the last year. Or Color had its horrendous bugs and limitations ironed out. “Stranded” has several connotations. Abandoned to me is more apt. Yes, it’s still there, and working, but what we were waiting for didn’t materialize…and they pulled support. To dismiss that, among the many other let downs on this “upgrade”, as negligible or insignificant by some is quite a callus thing. Especially when the argument is being made that “upmarketing” was their game plan from the beginning….ahuh
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White noise
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[Eric Parker Andersen] ” ‘Haters’ are those that enjoy hating for its own sake, the ones who declare that FCPX ‘sucks’, is ‘stupid’ and isn’t ‘pro’. Not true, it clearly works for lots of us in the biz.”
A characterization not nearly directed at said posters as it is to those that have legitimate gripes for a litany of reasons spelled out continuously. I don’t see people griping for griping sake. But I do see people inventing revisionist prose projecting a delusional fantasy against those that have vented various frustrations at Apple, it’s new product and disingenuous rollout. As if hey, none of that happened! You just don’t “get it!” It’s all sunshine and lollipops, and here is a smug condescending reason why they don’t get it…. /facepalm
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Sigh. More of the same dismissal…
You said you couldn’t make sense of why people distrusted Apple using logic you simply invented…which makes this ironic. You basically put this delusion on people while deluding yourself.
Your responses are pretty repugnant. Which is why I have always taken exception with you. For every great point you make, you come out with this smug-a-thon reply…you know better, which is frustrating. Just look at your first response here…
[Chris Kenny] ” Wait, so your objection is that they didn’t continue developing the classic FCP codebase?”
Honestly, that’s how you are twisting the argument? you can do so much better…by listening
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[Steve Connor] “You accused some of the FCPX “fans” of not moving on, I just suggested that those still posting rants on here may not have moved on as well, not really psychology as such.”
Accused? They aren’t…I made a statement of fact. Saying there is no reason for the “they” people to distrust Apple, blather on in a VERY dishonest attempt to make the “they” people sound irrational, is by it’s very definition, not moving on from the ludicrous, belittling, smug statements being hurled at people all last summer…and if by not moving on by me, no, I won’t sit here and read these insinuations without taking exception to them…
Edit to add: If people are still ranting about this software..so? it is still in flux…it’s not as if this program just came and went…
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[Darren Roark] ” I just hope that rather than referring to people in the discussion as haters or fanboys”
This isn’t a balanced argument. No one is calling people who are enjoying this software and finding success with it a “fanboy”…the “fanatics” are those dismissing people and their opinions, calling them haters or irrational for justifiable complaints, generalizations and frankly, talking smack and making “stuff” up…THAT is a “fanatic”…
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[Steve Connor] ” Based on some of the other posts on this thread it’s not just the Apple “fanatics” who haven’t moved on”
The I know you are but what am I approach. A barn burning classic! This is getting old. When someone takes an exception to being called a “hater” or broad stroke insinuations of being irrational for distrusting Apple (for no apparent reason to the fanatics), the responses it appears you are referring to, how exactly have they not “moved on”…this is a discussion forum, not a psychology session.
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[Eric Parker Andersen] “My core belief is that it is about the art, not the canvas”
That is exactly why the argument will live on. I believe it’s about the canvas. The “art” is only within my control to a certain degree, but what little control I do have, I feel the most creative on the most flexible canvas around…that being FC-PRO-7
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And round and round we go…
They EOL’d software without warning…putting back OLD software because people were rightly upset doesn’t excuse Apples moves here and regain “trust”. Promoting their software – “we aren’t leaving the PROS behind” while doing just that doesn’t excuse Apples moves here…1.0 release after 10 years, doesn’t excuse Apples moves here. Redesigning how we edit isn’t a new paradigm, it’s redesigning how we edit, and not embracing it doesn’t make us haters, or irrational as you are insinuating…
This argument is exactly the same as a year ago. Continued belittling of those that are not embracing this software as irrational luddites and haters because we say meanie things against Apple…
Honestly, the ones who haven’t really moved on here are the Apple fanatics…only now you are getting worse because there have been “updates”….