Jamie Franklin
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And apple exploited that less-than speed bump just a smidgeon and turned their backs quite drastically. Not saying anything about their decision, they are doing just fine, just a small irking feeling that I must have spent 30,000$ off the top of my head the last decade on products that now have minimal support at best and am now looking to replace with other brands from a “brand” that was only taken seriously enough to position themselves into a gadget store…We’re not asking for Henry VIII’s head, he asked for ours…ouch
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Well, it didn’t need to turn into another rant until I got jumped on for a rather benign statement…
All good.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “in all fairness, this is all possible in FCPX, minus putting the clip where you want in vertical space (although you can determine the layer order), including having the clips named music and dialogue non destructively. You can mute whole sections, or selected clips, whatever, with a click or two.”
Yes, but, in my opinion, it is extremely cumbersome to do so. And after a while, annoying to all end. When I’m sliding files around, testing sound elements and creating (*key word, creating*) an environment I’m supposed to be focusing on as a viewer, an artist and as an technical editor the last thing I want to be worried, or engaging in, is slugs, compound clips, connected clips, and forced layering operations. Then, if I want to mute a TRACK, which I know doesn’t exist, I have to highlight and disable instead of a very simple operation found in FC7…click. What if I have a bunch of “layers” I don’t like, lock tracks, click-highlight delete in 7. Smooth as silk…or I basically have to pre-build a canvas (still missing a viewer) and mimic a system that is indeed closer to what a traditional NLE is, because lets face it, its a better way to work and more efficient, but without half the function….don’t get me started on the auto scrubber….so why in effin sake am I doing this again…oh right, cause I’m a luddite who needs to get over the past (that worked better)…
It is one of the most cumbersome programs I have EVER used. There is no fluidity. This is not simplified as some suggest, or dumbed down, it’s just, pardon the expression…retarded. How is this magnetic timeline more flexible…? When did flexible become a bad thing…
All I ask is that a timeline remain flexible. So the push back with the “living in the past” meme and afraid to learn, or that I just don’t get it or my new fav, I haven’t even used it at all…is really coming from some disproportionate defense of a program that is (in their minds) justifiably (??) crucifying how many editors prefer to work…
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“Sounds like you haven’t spent all that much time with FCPX (if any at all).”
Completely unnecessary. Don’t bother trying to mistake my annoyance for anger. You seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing to no end just because I don’t like this software. My post was to the OP, not you. Cheers
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You want to get into an argument now over who is being the bigger jerk? I wasn’t even responding to anything you posted and you went ahead and said I was pretty much lying even though nothing in my statement was inaccurate…
You can’t drag an audio file where you want, it snaps back. that is a fact…you have to layer it underneath or fill the gap in order to have any control over where you slide a file. Again, that’s a fact and in my opinion not how I want to edit.
To that you went and insinuated I’m just pulling that out of my butt and haven’t used the software…It almost matters if you think it’s better to edit this way…but you can vocalize so without the bs
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Then you totally misrepresented my problem with the program. Which is my problem, not yours, so your snide comments aren’t necessary. Since my problems with it actually exist, you just don’t care about them…
I said, you can’t place them where you want, you said you could…the fact is you can’t. The end
“Tracks are only really necessary for order of operations and organizations.”
What an incredibly obtuse statement…
Tracks aren’t only necessary for your limited scope. I use tracks for a variety of purposes. It offers much more flexibility than something that snaps in gaps or forces one to fill them…
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Snide rude comments aside, please give us a screen shot of the audio tracks. Lay in a video and drag an audio file to a track lets call that one dialogue. Then take another audio file and lay it in underneath…lets call that music. To test your analysis place it further down the track please without anything above it…..
(uhoh! what is it doing?)
Then try and mute that “track” you say exists…With your video, do the same thing, try and build a 3 track multi layer without anything underneath one of the videos…
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I don’t think so. Like I said, it might serve a purpose, but it won’t be a standard.
People defending it as a 1.0 comparing it to the 1.0 of the first Final Cut always seem to exclude the legacy and the truths inherent in a multi-track nle that is really the standard, and for a reason.
The features missing doesn’t say much of the timeline that won’t prorate to the 11 years of complete control and flexibility.
Some people find it comfortable being in a timeline that won’t allow you to layer an audio file where you want, watching it snap back to it’s static track. I don’t get that. That doesn’t say much to whether this software catches on, but I think it says there are more issues than it’s ecosystem and tape support….
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FCx will never be a standard. So while it might be handy to poke around and get to know it since online media will be strong and there is a place for this dreadful software, I wouldn’t dedicate your time that could be better spent elsewhere on another NLE that is actually going to take FC7’s place and doesn’t annoy you to no end with a redonkulous timeline. I think there are trials for Avid, but wait until MC6 comes out before committing.
I’ll be going the same route as 75% of new projects I’m looking at these days are requesting Avid. CS5 is fine, get to know that beast until the new Media Composer is released…
Good luck!
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[Lawrence Eaton] “Editing is an art form. It’s about timing, emotion and the arc of the story. ” No mention of software there. None whatsoever. Software facilitates our profession; it’s not the one thing that defines it.”
You think having connected clips, a clumsy position tool, a cumbersome quasi multi-track (forget audio lol), annoying gaps, auto-mentally-unstable-needy-playhead, silly folder restrictions, no save as, no sequences, no custom formats – helps or hinders the “art form”…?
Do you think placing limitations and removing the flexibility of your canvas helps or hinders the “art form”…?
I’ve been editing the way I want now for the better part of 10 years allowing me to create on a pretty limitless canvas …now, all that is gone from Apple. Now I can’t even move my mouse over the timeline without this dysfunctional program doing something annoying…
No mention of software, but there are some fundamentals, principals, in the process of the art form now of editing. No company, after building on those fundamentals and principals for a decade should *force* the artist to concede those truths and tell them to move forward or whatever…
I’m fine with all the chrome and icky data management and gloss. I want my second viewer. I want my old *proven* multi-track timeline back because what we do we do in layers. We jumble, we snap, we unsnap, we slip and jiggy and create chaos to mine for diamonds in complete control…all that is gone with a timeline that’s trying too hard to be a smart-ass, and doesn’t impress
Keep the new stuff, just add back the old…
There was no reason to change that timeline (canvas)….at all.