[Jacob Kerns]

“Why do you think so? What are some of the pitfalls you foresee?”

Um the people working around you!

A couple of people in my office bought the iPhone yesterday. you how stupid it looks and sounds talking to a phone instead of just typing in things. For people driving and disabled yes great Idea.

I miss when only few people had apple products!

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[Jacob Kerns]

Wait?…….what?…..um…..bad idea! I can currently talk to my Mac but it’s pointless!

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[Jacob Kerns]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Ok. So don’t buy an iMac?”

An iMac would be fine if your not doing heavy editing. I think their great for small projects but I think without the option to swap video cards or expansion its a turn off for graphics/video work. Specially since a lot of software is starting to use cuda more. Thunder bolt might change that.

[Kristian Tigersjäl] “It’s not afaik possible to overclock a mac cpu. Read that as “a cpu in mac” ;)”

No its not. it was in the response to this post

[Kevin Patrick] “But you will get more for your money on an i7 upgrade over an i5, as opposed to getting an SSD drive. “

So The point was the i5 Sandy Bridge isn’t that much slower than the i7 or the MacPro well at least on the PC side and especially with the auto overclock that comes with most ASUS/Gigabyte/MSI boards.

I built an i5 PC to play with PPro and its faster than my MacPro 5.1. Even in AE. What angers me is how much I paid for the Macpro and it gets out performed by a iMac or i5/i7 PC.

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[Jacob Kerns]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Also that 5-10 minutes faster will add up during the day, but maybe that’s just me. If you don’t need the extra time, then save some money.”

Well I could overclock my i5 to 4.7mhz which makes up that 5-10min difference. I have it set to auto speedstep which bumps it up to under load to 4.5Mhz and that’s stable and only a 2min difference. Hmm 1k or $200 bucks for roughly the same speed? For 1k you could max out ram, good video card or even to good 2 large format monitors.

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[Jacob Kerns]

[Kevin Patrick] “But you will get more for your money on an i7 upgrade over an i5”

The difference between a i5 and i7 sandy bridge is a moot point. I built a i5 sandy bridge to play with PPro and its not that much slower than the i7 in fact it should of been called an i7 because the difference is 10%. I can edit native 1080p AVCHD footage and its smooth as butter with effects. Difference in speed between my Macpro and this is like night and day. Same encoding project took 6hrs on the Mac and 1.5hrs on the i5. My brothers i7 was only 5-10mins faster.

My i5 scored a 9094 and only cost me $175 at Microcenter. Whole computer was less than a grand.

https://ark.intel.com/products/47918/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3670-(12M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

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[Jacob Kerns]

I agreen the background render makes Fcpx useless.

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[Jacob Kerns]

The i7 is fast enough but the only option is Ati/intel cards which might limit you in the future. You would be better going with a mac pro or Win7 box.

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[Jacob Kerns]

Gary I’m sorry to say that W3670 is still a waste of money compared to and i5 OC 2500k or i7 2600K is still a faster cpu. Spend the extra money on a good Mobo, Cuda card and ram.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+W3670+%40+3.20GHz

My i5 = 9094 cost me $175 at Microcenter

Xeon W3670 = 7805

Plus it can’t be used in a Dual CPU config

Package Specifications
Max CPU Configuration 1
TCASE 67.9°C
Package Size 42.5mm X 45mm
Sockets Supported FCLGA1366
Low Halogen Options Available Yes

https://ark.intel.com/products/47918/Intel-Xeon-Processor-W3670-(12M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

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[Jacob Kerns]

” dual i7 Xeons (12 cores in total)” Which is dual Xeons or an i7?

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[Jacob Kerns]

I was in the boat with the same spec Mac minus the drive setup and ATI card. Which was fine for Final Cut.

Shoot 1080 on Sony-HXR2000u and was having the same issues with Premiere CS5.5. I download the trial first on OSX and Win7 Boot Camp. I ran smooth in Win7 but not OSX. I since FCX was not working for me.
So I built a PC for just to try it out.

Win7 Pro
i5 OCSandy
16 GBDDR3
500GB Main Drive
1TB RAID0 Scratch Drive
3TB eSata RAID1 Storage
Nvidia 550Ti

and it ran circles around the Mac for $800.
For benchmark purposes I loaded the first PP an AE project that I did on the PC that took 1.5hrs to render out. I loaded it on the Mac and it took 6.3hrs.

I ended up selling the Mac for almost what I paid for it with the extra cash bought another Sony Cam, Shuttle pro2,3D SpacePilot, new audio mixer and Production Premium CS5.5.

I would try running Win7+PP in boot camp first to see if it does the same thing.

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