Heinrich Himmel
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The extra drive will definitely help. Are your encodes faster now? When comparing CPUs, more than the cores matter. Intel Cores are faster than AMD cores, so 4 AMD cores are about 2.5 Intel Cores. However 2 Intel cores today are about 4 intel cores 5 years ago.
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The Fermi cards are nice. I like the GTX 570/580 myself, but those are $300+ now and need a lot of power. Speaking of which, it is possible your power supply is not strong enough and causing components to fail. It is unlikely, but possible because Vegas will stress your entire system. I do not think a GPU upgrade is necessary. Vegas runs better on OpenCL and your 8670D should be good enough. If you upgrade, you would need a mid-high end GPU and that will cost a lot of money.
What is the actual CPU model? Download an run CPUz: https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
I assumed you have an A10 7850, but I could be wrong. The A10 7850 is not AMD’s most powerful CPU. It is essentially a Dual Core with hyperthreading. I would put it equivalent to an i3. AMD FX CPUs are still their strongest and I have only worked with an FX 8320 (no issues with that CPU).
Have you tried the dynamic RAM setting? It is more likely related to a setting in Vegas rather than a component or driver.
Catalyst Control Center is not necessary to have installed, but should not cause a crash. Uninstall if you can, but don’t worry if you can’t.
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I believe OpenCL works better in vegas. The HD 6970 would be the most powerful officially supported GPU. In terms of nVidia, the most powerful officially supported card is the GTX 580 (although I believe the 570 is close). I have the GTX 580 in one of my builds and it works great.
In terms of CUDA performance, I believe that the GTX 780/Ti/Titan and GTX 970/980 are the only ones that will outperform the GTX 570/580. Of those, I would go for the GTX 970.
In terms of OpenCL performance, all AMD mid/high end cards are about equal and well ahead of all nVidia cards. The 970/980 have closed the gap, but are still about 50% slower.
For rendering, you will get the best benefit from an HD 6970 (currently $125). It is hard to say which modern card is above this for timeline performance. I believe HD 7950/R9 270x and above, but I could be mistaken. I have an R9 280x in another build and that works great as well.
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I use DVDA 6, but is should work the same for DVDA 5.2. You need to render with markers. When selecting “render as” expand metadata options and select the box for exporting markers. You will have to re-render, however sometimes that is faster than redoing all the markers.
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I’m not sure, but I do not think the HD 3650 has OpenCL acceleration. I had an HD 4850 and I remember ATI/AMD not supporting the card and I believe lack of OpenCL was the reason.
Depending on your budget, I would recommend the following card if you are in the US:
This is an older card (actually same generation as your CPU), but it is the most powerful officially supported card. My R9 280x (unsupported) is working fine and accelerated both timeline and rendering however.
The 8670D is probably above the HD 3650 in performance, although you can try using it. Vegas used to crash a lot with my system before. Changing dynamic preview to 0MB solved the issue for me. You can try that out. I also believe your 8670D is prior to GCN meaning that Vegas should support it.
Hope some of this helps!
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Do NOT do a system upgrade!!! Your 980x is only maybe 30% weaker than a i7 5930!!! You are about on par with an i7 4790.
So here is what affect timeline playback:
CPU
GPU
HDD
RAMYour RAM and CPU are more than adequate! Your GPU is WEAK and your HDD is average.
Upgrading GPU would make the most difference. For timeline playback, I believe the AMD R9 series is the best. For renders, I believe the AMD HD 6970 is best. Both are considerable upgrades to a 5770.
I recommend you spend about $250 and upgrade your GPU. I would recommend an R9 280x. This can be purchased under $250. I recommend either the Sapphire Tri-X or Gigabyte Windforce. Both have great coolers. If you like a little less on the playback, but more on the renders an HD 6970 would be around $125 and as I said, a considerable upgrade to your 5770!
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Your bit rate in Vegas is too high. At 3 hours bit rate should be 16mbps so at over 3 hours your bit rate should be a little lower. Use a bit rate calculator to determine what rate to use. Then render again in Vegas.
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Basically what you are doing is moving the mask. What you want to do is reposition the clip rather than the mask. After creating your mask, click on the “position bar” (this is right above the mask bar). That will change your overlay to the position tools (like when you first enter the pan/crop tool). You will then reposition the clip (which you have already masked out) rather than the mask.
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Likely that 12 core Xeon will be about on par to current 6 core at 3.6GHz
If you are looking to build a PC for video editing at up to $3k budget, I would recommend something along the following:
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/p/9vP8xr
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/p/9vP8xr/by_merchant/CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($223.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($529.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5″ Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5″ Solid State Drive ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 6970 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ eBay Newegg) – I edited this one
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($66.44 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2119.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 11:31 EDT-0400If you want to save money, go for a build around AMD FX 8320 or FX 8350:
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/p/syGhYJ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/p/syGhYJ/by_merchant/CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($173.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($344.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5″ Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5″ 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5″ 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 6970 2GB Video Card ($129.99)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($66.44 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1419.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-13 11:37 EDT-0400The AMD 8-core (or i7 4-core) will be roughly 33% slower than the hex core. The HD 6970 should cut render times in half for AVC. Most likely newer GPUs will make editing smoother but they will not accelerate rendering.