[Harry Putnam]

I’ve been shown the answer so ignore this post if you please.

I stumbled around and got straightened out from a response on adobe forums where I was told to look into the `Region of interest tool”

I had already noticed that it turned off the selector part put still my layere were invisible. A combonation of turning of Region of interest and walking the undo’s back clear to the limit restored things to place where I could see how to proceed.

[Harry Putnam]

[John Rofrano] ”

John Rofrano Re: Event pan crop dialog differences
by John Rofrano on Jan 2, 2011 at 6:38:59 pm

[Harry Putnam] “I didn’t reallize I needed to copy and paste code into the post but at any rate no code ever appears in the dialog as the directions say, although when I press upload, it completes successfully or says it does.””

I couldn’t explain it any better than the instructions that are already on the upload page. here are some annotations to help you:”

I did look at those directions better after the first try, so on the second I followed them carefully, but never saw either the image or the code appear in the left hand box. Although the upload completed successfully

Long after, when I closed firefox, I noticed an upload dialog way back behind several other windows … and now suspect the dialog was already open and I opened a second one (or more).. a kind of happenstance that has caught me several times in similar situations and yet I didn’t check for it when the problem occurred … senility maybe.

Thanks for the excellent diagrams (settled the crop pan dialog too).

Much as I looked at those two dialogs, I never saw that difference
(one being in position mode, and one in mask)

I actually did look at the mask selection area but saw it was not checked so assumed it would not be on then.

[Harry Putnam]

[John Rofrano] “John Rofrano Re: Previous posts always appear in editor
by John Rofrano on Jan 2, 2011 at 3:30:12 pm

You might want to clear the cache in your browser and all the cookies for the COW. I don’t see that behavior. I do see this if I start a post and don’t finish it and close my browser. When I reopen the browser the original text is still there even if I change computers so it must be saved on the COW’s hosting servers. That’s why I recommend cleaning out any cookies. This is probably how they are tracking this data. But I do not get this behavior for new posts like you are.”

Those cookies must have been it, clearing them stopped the behavior, thanks.

I think I have quite a few times either began a post here, then got side tracked before posting, inadvertantly navigated away and later closed out the browser, or just changed my mind and closed the poster assuming it would kill the draft…

[Harry Putnam]

[Mike Kujbida] ”
Mike Kujbida Re: A brief outline of 4 way split technique
by Mike Kujbida on Jan 2, 2011 at 5:47:40 pm

[…]

After syncing up your clips, use Track Motion (it’s the best tool for this purpose) to shrink and position them as desired.
Set each track to a width/height of 360/240.
For position, use -180/120, 180/120, -180/-120 and 180/-120 for top left, top right, bottom left and bottom right.
Assuming you want the top right track to go full frame at the end, use keyframes to do the move at the appropriate time.
Once you’re happy with it, I would render this sequence (DV-AVI in Best mode) to a new track so that you don’t have to keep rendering it over and over again.”

Another excellent little walk thru and lots of exact details.
Well appreciated here.

Can you tell me how `vegas’ users might handle the kind of problem mentioned below:

Say you have work going on in the timeline, but you find a clip you would like to overhall a bit. Maybe take some excessive motion out of it, but you don’t want to work on it at the place where your work is going on. You don’t want to risk messing up other work there.

In Premiere I would create another timeline ,do the work there, then just copy paste it into the first track where I want it.

Does `vegas’ have any facility to create more than one timeline,

Or do you just fire up another instance of vegas?

[Harry Putnam]

[Harry Putnam] “Using Vegas Pro 10 on Windows 7 (64bit)

I’m attempting to manipulate size and position of frames using the event dialog for that purpose.

I have 4 tracks stacked and am manipulating each. Three of the event pan/crop dialogs come up looking the same but the forth is lacking some of the headings seen in the others and has one the others lack (see the appended image)

The three each have:
postion
Rotation
Keyframe interpolation
source
workspace

But the 4th only has:
position
path
workspace

What have done to make that one different?

[First attempt at screen grab upload failed]
[Second attempt at screen grab upload failed]
I don’t see the screen grab image I attached.

I didn’t reallize I needed to copy and paste code into the post but at any rate no code ever appears in the dialog as the directions say, although when I press upload, it completes successfully or says it does.”

Here is my third try at getting an images into this darn thing.
When I upload the image I’m told it has uploaded successfully but the code I am to cut and paste (according to the popped up directions) never appears.

I posted it on line HERE

[Harry Putnam]

[Mike Kujbida] ”
Mike Kujbida Re: A brief outline of 4 way split technique
by Mike Kujbida on Jan 2, 2011 at 4:29:03 pm

Here’s a condensed version of what the tutorial is telling you.
Import all your video clips (I’ll use 4 for this example) and drop them on the timeline so that they’re stacked on top of each other.
Choose one track as the master (preferably the top one) and sync everything else to it.
Delete the unneeded audio tracks.
Click and Shift+click all track headers so that they’re all highlighted (this is an important step!!).
Tools – Multicamera – Enable Multicam editing.
Camera 1 will be outlined in the Preview window.
Tools – Multicamera – Create Multicamera Track.
You now see a quad split with camera 1 highlighted.
Play the video and, at the appropriate time, press the desired number (1 to 4) on the numeric keypad.
If you want to, you can just place your cursor at a specific point and press the desired number.
When you’re finished this step, you’ll see a series of camera cuts on the video track.
2:23 in the tutorial you referenced shows you what this looks like.
Because these are takes, you can use the ‘t’ key to switch to a different camera cut if desired.
Tools – Multicamera – Enable Multicam editing one last time to complete things and go back to a single screen in your Preview window.”

Mike, You’ve made a really nice tutorial here… and vastly superior to the help manual as an overview… its really good.

I feel well prepared to do multicam stuff now.

You’ve taken a bit of time to write that, and I am very grateful, thank you.

Am I wrong in thinking the end result would be a full screen view (to the end user) that changes in accordance with how I have clicked or other wise selected from the various tracks? That is each selected bit will be full screen to the end user?

I hope I’m not missing something achingly apparent here.

—————————————————–
However, my original post was about having a 4way scene in my production, featuring all 4 quadrants in their entirety. No need to pick and chose which is to show. But the end user will see a full screen split in 4 ways where a portion of the dance is playing in each quarter, for however long the segment is setup to play.

In my original post I imagined it would be done by setting keyframes and muscling the various frames into the right size and position, over time, in some kind of measured and pleasing way, then back again to a single view. (That’s what end user would see)

I think I am seeing how to do it using the pan and crop event dialogs for each bit of video. But even there, I’ve run into something I don’t understand and have posted a different thread regarding those event dialogs.
Thanks again for the excellent tutorial.

[Harry Putnam]

[Mike Kujbida] ”
Mike Kujbida Re: A brief outline of 4 way split technique
by Mike Kujbida on Jan 2, 2011 at 12:50:06 pm

Harry,
Use the multicam feature that’s been built into Pro since version 8.
It does exactly what you want with very little fuss.
The online help menu takes you through it step by step.”

Thanks for the tip, but it looks like your notion of very little fuss is a bit different than mine. It sounds confusing as heck after perusing awhile and near as I could tell, none of it leads to a 4 way split screen where 4 tracks are running in the viewing area as I described.

Sorry to snivel so loudly, but maybe there is something online somewhere that tells how its done but is designed for a novice, not a seasoned vegas hand.

I’m sure the lack of ability to make much sense of it from the help file is my own shortcoming. And I doubt the technique is really all that difficult… for me the help file seems to make it so.

I’m googling now for a tutorial but I had hoped to gain a rough idea from someone here.

Ahh found a nice one for describing multicam editing
HERE

Only problem is that I see no evidence that any of this results in a quadrant view.

[Harry Putnam]

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Mike Kujbida Re: Am I dreaming
by Mike Kujbida on Dec 23, 2010 at 4:52:22 am

Options – Prefs – General – Double-click on media file loads into Trimmer instead of tracks (7th one from the top in Pro 8, 3rd from the bottom in Pro 9 and 10).”

Egad, I failed to notice that was a scrolling list.

Thanks

[Harry Putnam]

[Mike Kujbida] ”
Mike Kujbida Re: cursor motion and markers
by Mike Kujbida on Dec 23, 2010 at 4:38:12 am

Trimmer markers have almost nothing to do with timeline markers.
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?”

I’m curious then as to why those markers appear on the timeline?

Also I don’t see any other apparent way to set markers on clips on the timeline. The markers available under the insert menu set markers to the timeline itself, not to the clip.

The context menu on a timeline clip offers no chance to do anything concerning marks. And as mentioned above, the Insert menu appears to offer no chance to set a mark to a clip either.

What exactly I want to accomplish:

1) learn how to navigate between markers. I see stuff in help file that indicates Ctrl-arrow keys for that.. I don’t see it work here.

Sorry if my post was not clear about number 1. I had hoped that the line:

“How can I make the cursor jump to that mark (on the timeline)?”

Would have made that part at least somewhat clear.

As to what I hope to accomplish by setting markers:

2) I hoped to set markers in two (or more) different clips, and use those markers to align the clips.

[Harry Putnam]

[Mike Kujbida] “Re: How to access videofx properties
by Mike Kujbida on Dec 14, 2010 at 11:53:37 am

For whatever reason, all your keyframe and other controls have been hidden.
TO restore them, move your cursor down from the top of the box until you see the symbol in the screen grab below.”

Gackk… I think this is one of those `I’m a dope’ moments.

Thanks