[Groucho]

You’ve got mail.

-Chris

[Groucho]

Also: here’s a little of one of the movies, if that helps at all:
https://rapidshare.com/files/19645030/Movie.avi

-Chris

[Groucho]

Hey Rick:

Yep, tried the “progressive” solution – no dice. The digital guck remains as long as the resize in track motion remains. Without the track motion step everything renders dandy.

I’ve definitely tried moving the field around, and I even tried doing the whole operation in pan/crop to see if that would make any difference. Nada.

I’ve pasted the file properties below. Maybe there’s a clue in there?

again, thanks much for your help Rick –
Chris

General
Name: Movie.avi
Folder: C:\Documents and Settings\Chris\Desktop
Type: Video for Windows
Size: 93.61 MB (95,852,544 bytes)
Created: Sunday, March 04, 2007, 6:42:29 PM
Modified: Sunday, March 04, 2007, 6:42:52 PM
Accessed: Monday, March 05, 2007, 10:13:07 PM
Attributes: Archive

Streams
Video: 00:00:26.560, 29.970 fps interlaced, 720x480x24, DV
Audio: 00:00:26.560, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, DV Audio

ACID information
ACID chunk: no
Stretch chunk: no
Stretch list: no
Stretch info2: no
Beat markers: no
Detected beats: no

Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no

Media manager
Media tags: no

Plug-In
Name: aviplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas 7.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\aviplug
Format: Video for Windows
Version: Version 1.2 (Build 5105)
Company: Madison Media Software, Inc.

[Groucho]

Shoot – I tried both your suggestions, Rick but unfortunately I’ve still got the digital weirdness happening.

Anything else I should try?

thanks,
Chris

[Groucho]

I’ll give it a shot – thanks mucho Rick!
-Chris

[Groucho]

“More info please. Do you mean that you have added effects and now have problems that you did not have before moving the frame with track motion? If so, what effects are you refering to?
We may have a field order problem here but send more info.”

Thanks for the help Rick.

All the effects were added when I edited the movies originally with Windows Movie Maker. I didn’t do any further “effecting” with Vegas.

Everything looks fine until I move the frame with track motion and then render the file for authoring – then the “break ups” appear.

I’ve experimented with rendering WITHOUT doing the track motion adjustment and it’s fine – except of course that I’m missing 10% of the screen, so I know it’s not the rendering process that’s introducing the artifacts.

I’ve also tried using a constant bitrate instead of the default variable, but that – if anything – makes it worse.

I also happened to notice that the digital weirdness happens where there are some kind of effects in the movie – fade-ins, fade-outs, slo-mo, that kind of stuff.

Does this help clarify? I very much appreciate your assistance.

On the bright side, I did figure out #2 – I was just using the wrong template. So that one’s solved at least.:)

thanks!
Chris

[Groucho]

I see the glitches very slightly on the computer monitor, but they’re nowhere near as bad there as they end up being once I’ve burned the DVD.

I’ll try using a constant bitrate instead. I was wondering about that.

thanks!
Chris

[Groucho]

Thanks George:

Yep, I just figured that out last night.:) My NEW problem though is that applying any track motion or cropping adjustments in Vegas introduces these horrific digital “glitches” – mainly in parts that have any effects, like slo-mo or fades or anything.

So at this point is seems I’m choosing between an incomplete picture or a complete picture with weird digital break-ups at certain parts. Any thoughts?

This is way harder than I thought.:)

thanks a bunch,
Chris

[Groucho]

Oh: I should add that the digital break-up is really only present AFTER burning the movies to DVD and watching them.

I can see it a little bit on the files themselves after the render, but not anywhere near as bad as it is after the burn.

thanks,
Chris

[Groucho]

“Why would you want to shrink the movie below the safe areas?”

Because I want the entire video to be visable on a standard TV.

Maybe I’m not being clear here, and if so I apologize, but I’m trying to figure out how to have the WHOLE video come through on a TV. But as it stands, because I can’t figure out how to keep the whole movie inside the safe area, all of the movie that falls outside the “safe” area is being chopped off. That’s a considerable amount. I’m not sure why anyone would NOT want to shrink the movie below the safe area. Why would anyone want to lose 10% of their movie when they watch it on a TV?

“If you override that and reduce your frame to fit within those areas you’ll wind up with black bars of varying sizes on each different monitor you play on it. ”

That’s FINE. In fact it would be great if someone could tell me how to do that! I have NO interest in how it looks on a computer monitor. I just want the whole dang thing on a standard TV. If the only way to do that is some kind of “letterboxing”, I’ll be kinda suprised (I would have thought this was a fairly easy thing to accomplish), but it’ll STILL be better than losing 10%.

thanks!
Chris