Gordon Modin
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After having an Nvidia 4800 graphics card in a mid 2010 2×2.4 GHz Quad Core Xeon Mac Pro (OS 10.8.3) I decided to get the Ge Force GTX 680 for Mac since it had 7 times the CUDA cores. The 4800 actually performed better, especially in rendering. The GTX is marketed towards gamers and must not have the same horsepower in the areas that Premiere needs. It’s not BAD, it just doesn’t beat the 4800. One nice aspect of the GTX 680 is the HDMI out. Unfortunately it’s not the output of Premiere (only the Mac desktop) so you can make presentations with it, but don’t buy the 680 thinking it’s the same output as an AJA card.
On a side note, I have tested Premiere Next on a Mac Pro with a Radeon card and it didn’t do as well as the Nvidia with CUDA cores. If you lower the pixel display to 1/2 it’s okay, though, but I didn’t see results as prompt and sharp as the Nvidia. Maybe it wasn’t the top of the line Radeon, but there is something to be said about CUDA technology combined with the Mercury Playback Engine.
A review of the Nvidia K5000 stated it was too far advanced for use in current Mac Pros, insinuating it was designed for a next-gen Mac. At $1,800 you can only image the horsepower on that card coupled with a fiber optic motherboard. Maybe next month…
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[Ievgenii Larin] ” I guess Adobe is risking to stuck in the past if they continue to appease editors with things they’ve already seen in FCP7, not trying to create something different.”
David: When you’ve actually seen it for yourself you can form an opinion that’s based on fact, not hearsay or belief.
David, you are very correct in saying that a person has to witness something for themselves before they can make a complete judgement. That said, I have been using the software for the last 3 weeks and I am totally blow away by it. I used to be co-leader of the Seattle Final Cut Users Group, but have not only switched to Adobe Premiere, but have started up the Seattle Adobe Premiere Users Group simply because I am so impressed with what Adobe has accomplished and can’t wait to show everyone else.
https://www.meetup.com/Seattle-Adobe-Premiere-Users-Group-and-related-software/
Over a year ago I and 30 other editors were in Adobe’s San Jose offices to view an early CS6. They looked us right in the eye and stated how they wanted to make the type of software we, as editors, would be proud to use. I gave my 2¢ just like everybody else and you are seeing the results. Once you get behind the mouse and start using Adobe Premiere Next you will form your own opinion, but I guarantee that it will put a smile on your face.
Adobe has finally made Premiere the true hub it needs to be for the future. Photoshop used to be the hub, but is now one of the Dynamic Links just like After Effects, Speedgrade, Prelude, Story, Encore (no upgrade this time), and Audition. Speaking of Audition, it is the hidden gem of the entire suite. Not enough emphasis has been put on it’s features. A fully featured rival to Pro Tools to be sure.
https://success.adobe.com/en/na/programs/events/1303_30759_nab.html?sdid=KEYJL
Gordon Modin
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Michael put it very well when he said “Can’t see an obvious advantage in waiting.” We are not SUPPOSED to want or even like the new Mac Pro that Apple just released. We are SUPPOSED to get fed up and move on. By releasing something so totally inadequate, Apple is forcing us to see the advantages to owning FCX on a laptop or iMac. If you reverse engineer FCX it points to an iMac anyway. No USB 3, no Thunderbolt? Do you think the engineers simply forgot to put those in? If they were included, management instructed them to take it out. If we received the Mac Pro we are all pining for (the totally fibre optic motherboard) it would be too ridiculously expensive. Pound-for-pound (4.5 lb. versus a small tank) there is more profit in a MBP. Apple is allowing the Mac Pro to die without killing it. You can set up all the Facebook pages you want, but Tim Cook is first and foremost a bean counter. What do bean counters do? The kill off the stragglers to benefit the herd. Just like in the case of FC7 to FCX, we are being herded in a particular direction. Still can’t figure out Apple’s logic, but they do, indeed, have one. I just don’t agree with it.
Gordon Modin
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Your comment about a drunk monkey rings true in this current edit. The shooter rarely used his tripod and, while not drunk, shook like a leaf in a storm. The Warp Stabilizer saved the day were Final Cut 7 would not even have imported the footage. Yes, the project bloated, but it still played back in realtime. I’m VERY impressed with CS6. Adobe engineers did an incredible job.
Gordon Modin
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I’ve been playing with Premiere CS6 for over a month and it gave me that same feeling Final Cut 7 did when it was released. Your eyes will pop out the first time you launch it. This is truly the Final Cut 8 we’ve really wanted. The Warp Stabilizer is your newest best friend. You’ll put it on all your clips. Hope you have the Nvidia 4000 for Mac graphics card because that is where all the magic happens. The Stabilizer takes only a minute to analyze the clips and then it’s real-time playback heaven. You’ll see!!
Gordon Modin
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Daniel, by “rock and roll” feature do you mean using the j, k, and l keys to slowly move back and forth to find the exact edit point? It’s there in Premiere CS6 and it’s fabulous!!
Gordon
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Not having posted on the Cow before, I specifically created an account just to respond to Herb’s mention that 18 year old pitching prospects don’t exist, a counter to the previous statement that the odds are better than Herb infers. Herb is spot on with his assessment. Years ago I did a series of videos with pitching coach Tom House and Tom stated it took 2 years for someone (even at the pro level) to develop a change-up, curveball, fastball, or slider. Obviously the 2 year period could fluctuate depending on a lot of variables, but at 18 that kid hasn’t had the time to master much of a fastball, let alone even getting it over the plate. End of point.
Getting back on track with Final Cut users switching software I think it more telling if you look at the Apps store and view the rankings of Final Cut, Motion, and Compressor with a side glance at iMovie. Currently iMovie sits at #8 moving down from #7 in the last week. FCX is at #21 having been #19 a little while ago. Since iMovie sells for $14.99 and FCX at $299, it would take roughly 20 times more people purchasing iMovie to equal FCX. We’ll never know the exact figures, but more to the point is that iMovie is not only still selling, but to a wider user base than FCX. My guess is that curiosity drove them to FCX, but iMovie is what they are settling on. Can’t imagine it being the other way around or FCX would be #1. It would be even more compelling to find out how many people bought FCX and then asked for their money back.
That said we now look at Motion and Compressor. Motion is currently at #49, but used to be #37. Compressor used to be #56 before dipping to #80. You would think Motion and Compressor would be considered part of an editing package and be purchased in equal numbers right along with FCX. Such is not the case even though both are priced at $49.99. Development costs for Motion and Compressor are not worth supporting if being #49 and #80 is the eventual return on investment. To put it another way: Angry Birds are kicking their ass.
Tim Cook is a bean counter. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but bean counters worry about return on investment, not whether video professionals are having their needs met. It’s the bottom line or the highway. In my opinion, it’s not a matter of “if” but “when” and that has a lot of us (including me) very scared.
Gordon Modin