[Gabriel Bergeron]

Hi guys, thanks for your answers.

I had been looking at the dreamcolor but the fact that it’s no longer manufactured and the monitor has known inconsistencies, it seemed like too much of a risk.

re: Panny plasmas. Why would the VT and GT series do but not the ST? Because of the limited color management options of the model?

Also wouldn’t I get pretty close with a Panny plasma (any models) calibrated with a scope and good software + BM HDlink for 3D LUT generation to compensate for the remaining differences?

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Hi guys!
Truly great discussion. Best thread on the subject I found.

I was simply wondering if some people would chip in with some updates on the subject and the experience you’ve had with your setup.

Also hardware wise, if you have plasma recommendations (vs. 2010 models discussed in the thread) and current LUT solution I should look into, fire away!

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Did I not make myself clear when I said the plan was to practice and practice the first 1-2 years and THEN get after clients. I won’t be a pro in the first 1-2 years, so I won’t have real clients. I’ll grade friends projects and I’ll help out some people with their short films and stuff like that.

So your methodology is to get your training, then buy expensive equipment, then that’s it you’re a pro?
I’m sorry but that’s not how it works for me. Although I’ve had great training, I feel I need at least a 12-18 months window to learn the craft through and through by doing small projects.

I’m trying to do it right. I see too many people jumping right in after their training and it’s way too soon in my opinion. Sometimes it will hurt them.
I’d expect you to support that and help me out to find the best budget solution for my first 1-2 years practice window.

Instead, you’re just kicking me in the face.

I’m still very opened to some people getting what I’m saying help me out.

cheers

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Guys, I understand where you come from, that you’re pros and you can’t go halfway into this stuff. And I agree with you. But I’m not a pro yet. I’m trying to build something that will allow me to practice and practice in order to become a pro. Please take this in consideration.

Next year or in two years when this will be getting really serious and I’ll feel it’s the time to become a pro and charge accordingly, I’ll get a Flanders and upgrade my gear.

The goal now: get as accurate as possible with a display under $800
My budget realities can’t be changed.

For now, I’m asking your help with this, even if it might not be the ideal pro solution. But it will be perfect for me for the next 2 years.

I simply want to know what if I shall go the LCD or plasma route, and if so which model would best serve my needs. If plasma’s white floating point is truly a deal breaker, then which LCD models should I look into?

Can you help me?
I also have unresolved questions in the above posts.

Peace!

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Yes there are. And I searched a lot and read enormously before posting.
I couldn’t find answers to my specific questions.

And also since I read so much, I couldn’t find a definitive answer for my monitor.
You say stay away from LCD, but this thread mentions some nice LCD options (the samsung) but it’s 2 years old. https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/223/19327

And also since the monitor is to be used as a reference monitor, I’ll have floating white points with a plasma which seems like a dealbreaker.

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Hi Sascha,

Thanks for your answer

2+3. What would you suggest then? LCD or plasma?
I hear a lot of people say plasma all the way but the babysitting makes me weary.
Any LCD to recommend for better blacks?
Am I right in my thinking that a plasma/LCD TV is a better choice for reference monitor in the sub-$1000-$1500 vs. a computer monitor.

4. Why is the Intensity getting me halfway there? Color space? What else?
How about a decklink studio? I’m opened to other companies as well.

5. Don’t worry, I won’t be hurting the industry or myself. The plan for the first year is to learn the ropes doing low budget short film/videoclips. I did lots of training already but not a lot of projects. Get the work out there and then further the client base (and upgrade the system + my fees as well).

• What about the subject of creating a custom LUT for the reference monitor? I don’t quite understand why would I need a LUT for it. I won’t be able to generate it with the Xrite display 3 right?

p.s. sorry about not posting in correct forum

[Gabriel Bergeron]

This confirms what I thought then…

I ended up creating a new layer for each moving frame and then working with the puppet tool frame by frame that way, resulting in a moving object adjusted with the puppet tool.
It worked quite well.

Thanks Dave and Andy for your answers!

[Gabriel Bergeron]

Hi Andy!

I thought about using the bezier warp but I liked the dynamic of the puppet tool and the way it affects the subject.

I’d like to try tracking the “starting” pins on the subject but I don’t see how that’s possible right now since there seems to be no way to move those original points.

After you create some puppet pins and move them, if you go to Puppet overlay tool or starch tool, you’ll see that it shows the original pins (before movement). This is what we want to move but there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it.

Ideas, input?

[Gabriel Bergeron]

This is a film stunt and I want to accentuate the effect using something like the puppet tool. I have green screen footage of the subject getting pulled by stunt wires and I want to make subtle changes to the dynamic of the impact.

When you said that the pins can be animated, you meant they could follow the moving subject in its movement? I see no way of doing that right now.

I can animate the pins all I want but when the subject moves it snaps off from the pins because they are fixed in place.

The pins act like the skeleton. You can then animate these pins as joints but the skeleton is fixed in place.

Am I missing something?

[Gabriel Bergeron]

^^^ re: my last post
I meant concerning my post on April 12 but oh well this thread seems done 🙂

Thanks for your answer Pepijn. Yes you seem to be almost me… 😉
I hadn’t read anything related to having difficulties calibrating a good plasma. I was planning on using a probe and good software.

Why would we need to repeat to process on a regular basis?
And if the plasma is calibrated in a color space and we work in that same color space why would we need a LUT?
Could you direct me for the information you’ve mentioned perhaps?