Franz Bieberkopf
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[Michael Phillips] “There will be (needs to be) some sort of “look how clever we are, better than, factor to the offering.”
Michael,
Agreed. I think we’re long past the “simply revamp the design with modern technology” phase (and I know Oliver Peters was being exasperatedly hopeful, not predictive). On the other hand, that “clever” impulse might bear something useful.
What John Siracusa doesn’t really acknowledge though is that Apple are no longer a PC company – they’re a gizmo and media company with a PC division. I’m not sure they’re “company that loves personal computers” as he hopes, except in the sense that an iWatch is a personal computer.
Franz.
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[Shawn Miller] ” I don’t like the idea of my software costing me money when it isn’t being used.”
Shawn,
While I’m not exactly an advocate of the rental model, one of it’s aspects is you could actually only pay for it while you use it. (Note, the rates are higher, but it should be considered.)
Franz.
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[Craig Seeman] ” FCPX feature upgrades have been more frequent then when legacy was delivered by disc.”
Craig,
I’m not sure that’s entirely true.
From April 2003 (FCP4) – April 2004 (FCP4.5) – May 2005 (FCP5) is 25 months, 3 major versions (and maybe 4 because wasn’t 4.1 the cocoa version? memory fails me) plus all the point upgrades. I can’t find a comprehensive history (and those here may have better memory than I) but it’s certainly comparable to the past 20 months of X.
Franz.
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[Bill Davis] “Aindreas, Chris H, Herb, Franz, and even David H have long histories here. I respect all of their opinions, (yes, even Aindreas’s!) but I can’t help but cast their arguments in the same skewed light that the clearly cast mine. And now they form the nucleas of the group arguing that X is “suspect” by virtue of some untestable and ill defined spacial awareness failing?”
Bill,
There is no “us” vs. “them” here – you seem to be very attached to the idea that it’s a fight for the king of editing machines.
If you want to make a division, you could divide commentators into those who have and NLE that they are settled on, and those that are surveying a very changed landscape in post (and entertaining the idea that they may never again have an NLE of choice).
Franz.
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[tony west] “To me it’s all about getting the clip that I’m looking for up as fast as possible. …If you have already seen all the footage and have an idea what you are looking for.”
Tony,
I think you’re working on an assumption – that the problem being addressed is that the “shot” or shot need has been defined, and then the necessary action is to find the clip that fills that need. If that is the case, then fast search based on clips categorized and tagged in anticipation of that need is going to be the most efficient solution.
The discussion here is more about how other models work. If you haven’t even decided what the need is, what is your search going to be? Or, in other words, how do you set up your editing workspace to best suit your approach to figuring out what your doing?
(Chris Harlan said it better.)
[Chris Harlan] “This discussion is about “I have many different choices to make on a whole variety of levels; what’s the best way for me to consider those choices.”
[tony west] “It’s like Apple is saying, let the computer do the work. … This discussion seems like it’s kind of about will the computer do the work for the search or will you.”
There was some interesting discussion here at release about how Apple was designing around “editing intent” and I think this follows on that idea – if you’re doing browser-based editing (and Bill Davis has talked about this extensively) then you’ll likely find FCPX an excellent fit with your approach.
Franz.
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Rohit,
Thanks for this – much appreciated.
Franz.
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Aindreas,
Thanks for starting a good thread.
The difference between “stepping back” and “pushing forward” aside, I have many thoughts on the subject that relate (of course) to sequence-based editing vs. browser-based editing (as I’ve now come to call it). I think the principal difference might be context, but that’s probably for a longer post.
But I thought I’d drop this here now, since it seems somewhat relevant and maybe illustratively useful:
Page 3 of an overly long review of the Palm Pre, 2009, Jon Stokes
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2009/06/ars-palm-pre-review/3/The interesting part is the comparison of approaches between Palm Pre and iPhone:
“The iPhone’s address book, just like its iPod app, expects you to immediately begin browsing for the desired record on launch, so it contains little touches that help you drill down faster through your collection. [Ed: ie. finding items within pre-ordered groups within groups, think of tracks within albums within artists] … the entire device is designed around the structure-and-browse paradigm, so the default mode of user interaction for the iPhone is that of browsing a structured collection (of contacts, of music, of applications, etc.).
When you launch the Pre’s address book, you’re supposed to just start typing the name of the contact that you’re looking for … If you try browsing for the desired contact, you’re wasting your time, because the data is just not structured for this kind of discovery. Pre wants you to query a service, not browse a repository.”
Though we could argue direct parallels, it’s stronger as an illustration of two very different approaches to organizing and finding, which ultimately seems to be a difference in both framing idea and emphasis.
Franz.
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Tero,
Thanks.
One issue that’s arisen is project bloat in PPro – as it stores the stabilization analysis as part of the project, it’s pretty easy for a project size to shoot up into the hundreds of MBs from just a few applications of warp. I’m not very experienced with PPro, but I’m concerned that project bloat has stability and usability implications. So I’ll be setting up each shot as its own project in either AE or PPro.
I’m just not sure if one or the other gives any more flexibility or advantages in terms of rendering time, etc.
Franz.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuFRz18rMQk
(contains no emotion directed at any corporation)
Franz.
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