Franz Bieberkopf
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[Jeremy Garchow] “This is why 1080p59.94 will be a major help in post (whenever it gets adopted for broadcast)”
Jeremy,
Yes, but pretty sure it still isn’t part of DCI spec.
Franz.
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[Gary Huff] “When you add 3:2 pulldown to 24p in a 60i container, it only marginally looks like 24p, because you still introduce interlacing.”
Brett,
This is particularly evident if there are any single frame edits in the 24p material.
The shift in the look from 24p to 60i is also generally accepted since we are so accustomed to seeing it (via decades of film to NTSC viewing).
Franz.
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[Oliver Peters] “It’s a quick-turnaround gig, which typically involves getting footage late and editing overnight (if needed) to have a piece ready for the next morning. Something like Teranex is never an option.”
Oliver,
I was addressing Brett’s general statements, not Jacob’s (slightly vague) specifics.
[Bret Williams] “X is superb at mixing frame rates. 7 is a dog.”
Franz.
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[Bret Williams] “Adding pulldown, to me at least, is neither converting nor conforming.”
Bret,
Ah, I see.
I call this frame-rate conversion because it is representing one frame rate inside another, but I see your point. Strictly speaking, however, it can misleading to call this “adding pull-down” since, for example, if you represent 24p inside of 60i you haven’t changed the speed at all, you’ve just added a specific interlace cadence. (The issue would become apparent if you tried to explain to your sound team that you “pulled down” the footage, but they don’t have to).
I’d say that neither “conversion” nor “pull-down” is a precise way to refer to this process, and I lament the state of the language.
[Bret Williams] “Every modern NLE has been able to so this for years. Except FCP legacy of course, which would just repeat every 4th frame.”
Actually FCP will add proper interlace cadence to 23.98 sequences on playout to hardware (ie realtime). It has always been a frustration to me that the software would do this properly in playback but could not do it properly via timelines. I always took it as another instance of lazy engineering …
Franz.
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[Bret Williams] “Conforming is not converting.”
[Bret Williams] “Drop the 24 and the 60 in a 1080i sequence. Perfect. The 24 gets interlaced pulldown and the 60p becomes 60fields.”
Bret,
I’m understanding from your second statement 24 frames playing as 1 second in a 1080i60 sequence. If that is correct, it is frame-rate conversion, not conforming. If not, then I have misunderstood you.
Franz.
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[Walter Soyka] “Alchemist was superior a few years ago and I’m not sure that BMD has actually changed Teranex”
Walter,
I would agree, but it does depend on the material. For-A also has hardware units that do a good job. And there are budget considerations.
Franz.
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[Bret Williams] “In 7 your only option would be to conform the 25 to 24 in cinema tools …”
[Bret Williams] “X is superb at mixing frame rates. 7 is a dog.”
Bret,
As I am currently dealing with frame rate conversions for a project cut on X, I will just say that while X seems to have some improvements there is no way I would recommend anything but external frame rate conversions (we’ll be using Teranex). I was actually surprised at how poor the quality was in X.
(X may be better at 24 to 60i interlace cadence, I can’t speak to that, but 30p to 23.98p is about equal to what you get in 7.)
Also, you forget that 7 can be used in conjunction with Compressor (as well as Cinema Tools). So there are “options” other than Cinema Tools (again, with various caveats.)
Franz.
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[Keith Koby] “I thought maybe some … football talk around here would get some traction, …”
Keith,
… Singapore’s long out.
https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/teams/team=43836/index.html
Franz.
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[Keith Koby] “USA! USA! USA!”
Keith,
It’s probably worth noting that the 1700 (?) workers are employed by Flextronics.
“Apple’s Mac Pro manufacturing facility is run by Flextronics as part of an initiative to bring manufacturing of some Apple products back to the United States. While it is currently a limited effort given the relatively low volume of Mac Pro production, it has received considerable attention.”
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/06/cook-visits-mac-pro-factory/
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/15/flextronics-hiring-1700-workers-in-austin-for-next-generation-desktop-computer-likely-new-mac-pro/Flexitronics is a multinational based in Singapore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flextronics
“In 1969, the company was founded in Silicon Valley … In 1990, … was renamed as Flextronics International, Ltd. with Singapore as its new base. … The company closed its contract electronic manufacturing plant in Richardson, Texas in 1996. The company acquired two companies in Hong Kong, Astron Group and FICO Plastics Ltd. and a Swedish-based company, Ericsson Business Networks.”Reading the wiki, the American facility seems to take its place amongst facilities in Asia, Europe, North and South America.
Franz.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Are you saying hitting play and adjusting a fader isn’t possible in fcpx, Franz?”
Jeremy,
No. I would have thought that was clear from what was written.
Franz.