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  • first really commercial/corporate job with FCPX

    Posted by Jacob Brown on June 11, 2014 at 11:30 pm

    I don’t do a lot of corporate work. In fact this was my first time. The gig was to basically go to a fancy party thrown by a lux swiss watch company, shoot some red carpet interviews, a lot of atmosphere and scene. Then edit together a cool sizzle real feeling recap video, incorporating some pre-existing high-impact footage, whole thing set to music.

    I had a cameraman, 3 cameras, sound person and an editor. So we had BlackMagic footage at 24fps, 5D footage at 60fps, both 16:9, and then the preexisting footage at 25fps and 2.35:1.

    The editor offered to try using FCPX but I figured let him use the NLE he preferred. We finished shooting at 11pm. He had rough cut to me by 3am. Looked great. Gave him notes. Woke up again at 6am, more notes. Had a low res export to the client by 830am.

    All fine.

    However I noticed some wonky interlaced looking stuff going on and some stretched aspect ratios etc.

    Total nightmare. Getting all the frame rates and aspects to work in the old system was near on impossible.

    Alan Okey replied 11 years, 10 months ago 15 Members · 63 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    June 12, 2014 at 12:08 am

    So you didn’t use FCP X? The post title seems a bit off.

  • Jacob Brown

    June 12, 2014 at 12:10 am

    Wish I had.

    I guess my point was that every single thing that tripped us up were things that are no-brainers in FCPX. And being used to FCPX at this point I didnt anticipate a single one of them.

  • Bret Williams

    June 12, 2014 at 12:17 am

    Why did you shoot two frame rates? But even so there shouldn’t have been interlaced weirdness or aspect issues. Sounds like the editor might not have been familiar with his app of choice either.

  • Michael Gissing

    June 12, 2014 at 12:30 am

    It seems like the problem was not the NLE but pre production planning that failed to set a common frame rate and aspect ratio with the cameras available.

    Needing an NLE to fix basic pre problems seems like a strange “fix it in post” attitude that just give editors and post people the shits. But hey I’m a realist and have to deal with these issue on a daily basis long after the camera crew has moved on so I am glad NLEs in the past few years like X & Pr are better able to deal with this sort of unfortunately increasingly common problem.

  • Gary Huff

    June 12, 2014 at 12:48 am

    [Jacob Brown] “However I noticed some wonky interlaced looking stuff going on and some stretched aspect ratios etc.”

    Don’t know if FCPX would have been any better.

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 12, 2014 at 12:51 am

    [Jacob Brown] “Total nightmare. Getting all the frame rates and aspects to work in the old system was near on impossible.”

    There’s no reason getting that footage to mix properly should’ve been difficult on any ‘pro’ NLE. Even FCP 7, which hasn’t been updated in 5 years, should handle it okay.

  • Bobby Mosca

    June 12, 2014 at 1:18 am

    So which NLE did he use?

  • Scott Witthaus

    June 12, 2014 at 1:33 am

    [Bobby Mosca] “So which NLE did he use?”

    Sounds like the nightmare was FCP7. Confusing subject title.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
    1708 Inc./Editorial
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Charlie Austin

    June 12, 2014 at 6:29 am

    [Gary Huff] “Don’t know if FCPX would have been any better.”

    Why do you believe that?

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  • Bret Williams

    June 12, 2014 at 6:57 am

    In 7 your only option would be to conform the 25 to 24 in cinema tools, and then edit it all in a 720p60 sequence. A perfectly viable option.

    X would handle the frame rates better. It could add correct pulldown so you could mix the rates in a interlaced 1080 sequence, and you could also conform the 25 to 24 in the app directly without cinema tools.

    Either app should handle the aspects just fine.

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