[Eric Meek]

Im really not trying to be a jerk here so please dont take it as such. This post is not an insult but I do have a few thoughts I’d like to get out about the above post by Alen Okey.

For one, even if you claim to use Apple products I still get the feeling from you that you harbor ill will toward apple and its fanatical users. It sounds like it bothers you when people say good things about FCP because of your disgust for Apple in general.

FCP has problems, all editing apps do. But if it didnt have less problems and quirks than Adobe premiere or AVID people wouldnt use it. FCP is popular not only because of price but for VALUE. Cost and value are two very different things and the value of FCS is amazing. Even with all its quirks and bugs. I guarantee AVID and Premiere have as many , if not more bugs, than FCS.

You say you would get along just fine without FCS products. Well of course you would, just like we would get along if indoor bathrooms disappeared and returned to out houses. We would be just fine. things would suck, be slow, cumbersome and not as easy but we would make it just fine. Same goes for
FCP, you would make it and you would adjust. But I keep asking myself, why you use FCS? If your life would be just as easy without it why not use something else? It kills me to hear people say apple needs to do this and this and they are only 999 for the suite. You wanna talk about what AVID neds to include for 2500? Or how about adobe charging 999 for a stand alone premiere? Wanna talk about how THAT a rip off? FCP has no more or less problems than any other NLE out there. People easily forget about the savior of all codecs, apple pro res 422.

So while I understand people need to rant and complain for the squeaky wheel gets the grease but the above post just gives me the feeling of apple resentment.

You really are wrong on a lot of things. You say apple didnt know anything about high end compositing? They didnt have to because they hired ROn Brinkman, developer of shake and Nuke. They had the father of compositing IN HOUSE. They didnt need to. Kill support for other platforms? You can still buy shake for Linux and you can buy the SOURCE CODE. So now studios can update, modify and write plugs in on a proprietary bases for the studio. THEY OWN TEH SOURCE CODE. The studios will never leave shake because they can just update the code as they see fit. Add what they see fir etc. Shake isnt going anywhere for awhile.To say things like apple dont innovate they just buy other companies is so wrong. Motion 4 dan soundtrack were built from the ground up as well as compressor blah blah blah. When someone’s mentions this you say Motion isnt that good blah blah.

Saying apple is only selling pro apps so they can sell macs is like saying Adobe only sell Premiere to sell software. Of course they want to sell macs. WHy is FCS so cheap? Thats why. IF it was pc ready it would cost 225000 dollars. Trust me. Just look at shake. For osx it 500, but for linux its 5000 meaning its cheaper to get a new mac with shake than shake for linux.

“The Pro Apps that Apple has written itself and not bought from other companies (Motion, for example) are fairly lackluster when compared to tools from companies who have been making pro apps for years.” this statement really burns me up. Motion/ soundtrack etc is anything but lackluster. Motion has changed the game and soundtrack is so powerful is crazy. To call either of these apps lackluster

Are you kidding me? If you cant realize how good motion is and what its bringing to the table than i know its just pure apple contempt on your part. Motion has changed the industry.

You say apple dont care, its only a small niche? Are you crazy? Its a huge market. TV, Broadcasts, Hollywood, Independent film makers. All is ripe for the taking. Its far from a niche when you have 1 million users of a product.

You say if you didnt have FCS you would SIMPLY use other things. LOLOL. SIMPLY? you my friend take FCS for granted as a fool would. Apple pro ress, compressor, working natively with QT files, unlike AVID. Premiere UI is horrible. Bottom line. If it was”EASY” to use something else than do it. But you dont do you? You keep using FCS and why? Its the best. Either that or you cant afford any other. FCS took the market on merit not bad business practice like windows did by putting windows on every pc form the store not letting people source there own os. FCS got where it is by pure greatness. You think this many people use FCP because its bad.

Ill admit it has problems and could use fixing in a lot of ways and apple could get more focused on the direction by unifying the apps or giving us a true compositing/keying alternative but with apps like shake for sale and Nuke apple figures Motion will stay a motion graphics app, not a compositing app. Apple doesnt claim to be targeting the 100,000 dollar AVID users or the Inferno/smoke. flame users. Thats completely top end. Apple is going for the group of people that work on a film before it gets to the Flint/Flame or Nuke Station or 100,0000 dollar avid for finalizing/color correction and compositing.

And on a side not, i notice in your post you never mention the addition of Color to FCS? Color IS HUGE. Its one of the most professional color correcting apps out. And yes it for real. It was 25,000 dollars before apple bought it. Color is a powerful correcting tool just as strong any software based color app.. The addition of Color to FCS just tells you that Apple is committed. I think you just spite apple to much to notice.

Motion is not as good a compositor as AE no, but I can argue its a lot better than AER at a lot of things as AE is better than Motion at a lot. As far as a quick visualization motion cant be beat. Real time playback in front of a client is priceless. You dont seem to get that. Its not trying to be shake. THEY HAVE SHAKE FOR THAT. And they do sell 3000 dollar apps. Shake for linux is 5000. Bottom line, i think your sorely mistaking the purpose of motion. Comparing it to shake and nuke or even suggest wrong its a replacement is way off. Its not meant to be. Its a post production suite, thats all. A jack of all trades but master of none. They are specialty apps for that. Motion or AE doesnt track as good as Mocha but no one is saying Adobe or apple just dont care, if they would they would include a planer tracker. That is just screwed logic.

[Eric Meek]

not to be harsh but i think YOUR LYING. trying to bash apple. You can provide us a screen capture of your movie but you can t give us a screen shot of teh layers tab? This tells me the movie is maybe from not your copy of motion. I have never had this problem and nether has anyone else, how can you say its a bug and not you when your the only one experiencing it?

Why are you so affraid to admit it may be you. NO ONE and i mean NO ONE has had this problem. you need to re think your project because it sounds like its you not motion.