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Drew Sawyer
May 31, 2008 at 4:57 pm in reply to: Does ProRes preserve closed captioning from TAPES?

My apologies for being short with you Gary.
I am doing a cut and trim of a television program. Im actually preserving the entirety of the program, just removing commercials. Everything is coming in on HDCam 1080i tapes. Im using an out of house tape-digitizing facility, and it donged on me, “wait, I wonder if these programs have CC?” Although they were not labeled with CC on slate or on the tapebox, and the digitized data files were already delivered to me, and I couldn’t find traces of CCs. Regardless, I can find out which programs do and don’t have CC with the producer. But I didn’t know of any way to bring in HD material with CC’s, apply a new lower third across the whole program, trim out black space, and maintain the CC data if it was present. I am familiar with “line 21” for SD, but I have no knowledge of HD CC data, nor have I worked with CC data before.
-The Real Issue
So I was wondering if there is any workflow for applying a graphic layer of video on top of captured HD video, and still preserve the CC data. Then lay it back to tape. If so what are the capture methods, and is it possible in Final Cut to add the said graphic layer without destroying the CC data.

I have heard of people cropping the 2nd video layer to a point in SD footage so that the line 21 data would still be present on the video layer below, but I don’t understand HD CCs at all. Im researching them at the moment. Thanks for the ideas guys. I’ll post my results. And please keep me informed of any new information.

Thanks,
Drew
Drew Sawyer
May 30, 2008 at 7:48 pm in reply to: Does ProRes preserve closed captioning from TAPES?

Oh I read it. I also just thought since it was a forum I’d try to get a few opinions since I had read other dead threads with mixed responses. I didn’t know you were the authority on whether my questions were completely answered or not. Thanks.

Drew
Drew Sawyer
May 30, 2008 at 2:43 pm in reply to: Does ProRes preserve closed captioning from TAPES?

Gary,
Isnt that link just a post back to this thread?

*-Has anyone had any luck at all retaining CC data while capturing via Final Cut through SDI?

Drew
Drew Sawyer
May 30, 2008 at 1:59 pm in reply to: Does ProRes preserve closed captioning from TAPES?

-I heard that Capturing with an SDI card at uncompressed, like a Black Magick card might work. Anyone have any success at all on bringing CC’s?
-Is there anyway to capture the Closed Caption with the video and place it into an NLE for laying back to tape? Is the NLE stripping the data in the coming in or in going out process?

Drew