Derek Andonian
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I signed it. I see it’s got over a thousand signatures so far.
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[Chris Harlan] FWIW, I like the idea, too. Plus, I can park a lot of my commonly used files, like SFX packages, in that little online closet that comes along with membership.
That’s something I hadn’t thought of. I actually like that aspect too. It could come in handy, especially with the new Premiere and Speedgrade in mind- it would be nice to be able to store .look files up there, and grab a look that I like when I’m somewhere else.
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[Chris Harlan] I understand the anger and anxiety, but as far as I’m concerned, having watched Premiere develop from 5. to Cloud, I feel very comfortable saying that they have been extremely diligent in listening to both complaints and ideas and have worked quite hard to deliver what I consider to be a very professional set of tools. Just because you don’t like the direction they’ve taken with Cloud–which I understand–is it really fair to accuse them of this kind of hypocrisy?
With recent history in mind, I totally agree. But looking ahead to the future, I think he does have a point. Someone in another thread pointed out that Adobe won’t have as much incentive to make significant improvements to their software when they do an upgrade, since everyone will be paying them whether they download the newest version or not. The days of Adobe having to convince people to upgrade every time instead of skipping some versions will be over.
I wish Macromedia was still around to keep Adobe on their toes…
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You can do this already without the cloud?
In that case nevermind.
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[Gary Huff] “What’s the difference between that and having to pay a one-time fee to get a month’s access to it?”
This way you wouldn’t have to pay for a month just to go in once or twice and do a quick update.
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[Joe Campanale] ” I don’t know how I feel about Adobe owning my content …”
Adobe doesn’t own your content. You just need to keep paying them in order to access the software that created it- and therein lies the rub.
With Premiere, this actually won’t be so bad if you have CS5 or CS6, since you can go backwards by exporting to XML. You can also take your project to Avid via AAF. Both of these are more robust in the new version, so that should be helpful.
With the other apps I’m more concerned. I remember a while back I downloaded the 30-day trial of Premiere CS6. I launched it after it expired, and got a message saying I could use it this one last time but won’t be able to after that. If they did something like this with the CC apps when you stop subscribing to it and let you use them 10 times or something like that, I’d feel better about this whole thing.
As far as FCPX goes, I’m not on a Mac right now so I can’t use it. But I’d like to go cross-platform eventually, so I’ll probably get it when I do that, even if it’s just to know more about it.
As for right now, I know I’ll be staying in CS5 land for a good while, and hope to upgrade to CS6 while it’s available. I’ll also be taking a closer look at the Media composer trial that I downloaded the other day than I originally anticipated.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Changing NLE’s is hard to do no matter what the cost.
If you are 100% worried about it, then you don’t have to sign up, but that seems rather extreme.”
I was thinking more in terms of a “down-the-road” scenario- like what happens if at some point Premiere takes a sharp turn like FCP did.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “CS6 will still work, too. Won’t it?”
Yes, but what if someone who doesn’t have any CS products starts using Premiere, and then at some point it goes in a direction they don’t like? They’re going to have to keep paying Adobe to access their projects while they look for something else…
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[Mathieu Ghekiere] When it was released, Larry Jordan said: “Nobody will use it professionally now. But within 12 to 18 months, I think the situation will be dramatically different”.
I know a lot of people like to think that history is going to repeat itself with FCPX, and it’s inevitable that it will be used everywhere eventually. But keep in mind, when X came out it was being compared to FCP7- which had been EOL’ed and was definitely not going to get any better than it was.
Now, with Premiere Pro on the scene, things are a lot different. Adobe has been working their tails off to get rid of the sticking points that have kept people from fully making the leap to PPro, and many are taking notice. CS6 is still rough around the edges, but the next version is going to seal the deal for a lot of people- and that will mean a rough road ahead for FCPX. I’m sure adoption of X will continue to rise, but it’s foolish to think that it’s going to follow the same path that FCP Legend took, and total dominance is inevitable. Unlike FCP7, Premiere isn’t a dead app- it’s very much alive, and will continue to evolve and get better. And if there’s something about FCPX that the users of Premiere Pro would like to see in their NLE, you can be sure Adobe will listen.
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[David Mathis] 1. Being able to save different versions of the same project
You mean, X is STILL unable to do a ‘save as’ after all this time?
That’s just unacceptable.
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“Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”