Dennis Radeke
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[Sohrab Sandhu] “Maybe these guys have been working with Apple secretly eversince.”
I can’t speak for Apple, but we (Adobe) work hand in hand with our hardware i/o partners and provide as much information as we possibly can as early as we can. If you take Apple’s penchant for secrecy out of the equation, I’m sure they’re working with their partners.
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[Scott Sheriff] “I wouldn’t disagree with that straight away. I’ve tried it before with my octocore and yes you can edit h.264, but there are a lot of ‘if’s”
Hi Scott – out of curiosity, was that experience with Premiere Pro or with Final Cut?
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[Paul Jay] “Just edit with H264 and you’ll find out why you shouldn’t. Sooner or later.
Even in Premiere.”Yes, do – you might be surprised. 😉
A decent Mac will allow you to edit H.264 fine. Is the scrubbing buttery smooth? Absolutely not, but many people find it more than acceptable. It’s a personal opinion that you make based on time saved (by not transcoding) vs. edit experience, though many disagree with me.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=premiere_pro
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[Hector berrebi] “about premier… it maybe does the things you mentioned… but try some heavy trimming with it… or working in a multiple user environment. I’d never switch to adobe. the people who write premiere obviously never edit.”
I’ll be the first one to admit that our trimming model is antiquated and in need of an overhaul. However, if we know it, then that’s the first step to fixing it. As for multiple user environments, FCP has traditionally had the same problem and please don’t say FCP Server… We’re working with partners like MXF Server and others to provide that collaborative editing environment for those users who need it. I’ll be presenting it in LA two weeks from now so its real and available today.
In the end, what we have going for us outweighs the things we’re still working on. The best thing the user has going for it from Adobe? …and this one’s gold considering some other companies out there – PRO-ACTIVE COMMUNICATION
Dennis – Adobe schill. 😉
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[John Davidson] “Nobody is going to switch to Premiere. That’s the equivalent of threatening to call your old high school girlfriend when you fight with your wife. Premiere may do all these fun things, but as soon as your best client asks for you to dig out an archived FCP project in ProRes and make a revision, you’ll be back. And oh yeah, CS5.5 broke the AJA drivers, so I guess Adobe doesn’t care about pro users either.”
Well… some people are and for those that aren’t, that’s cool too… We’re happy to help whoever with whatever part of Adobe products they want.
As for editing that old FCP project – you can do that on Premiere Pro too. XML and ProRes is just fine.
Lastly and most importantly, Adobe didn’t ‘break’ the AJA drivers. With a new Adobe version, comes a newer version of drivers from AJA to support it. There is generally some delay from the release of the software to the video i/o vendors supporting it. That’s like saying Apple broke the AJA drivers when a new version of FCP comes out. 😉
Dennis – Adobe guy
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I have no idea if this would work, but it’s ‘free’ and worth a try.
Download a trial of Adobe CS5.5 and use Adobe Media Encoder to convert your footage. The trial has all of the available codecs working for 30 days.
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If you have CS5 you can export OP!a files via Adobe Media Encoder. From FCP, I think you would have to two step it, but it’s still doable and high quality. FCP to ProRes then AME takes that file and exports the MXF.
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[Lee Olivas] “1. Is Adobe Premiere even in the same galaxy as FCP??”
Yes and then some, but I’m an Adobe guy, so don’t take my word for it. You can download and try a CS5.5 from the Adobe website. It requires a 64-bit OS (Mac or PC)
[Lee Olivas] “2. Can a 7 yr. old G5 function for longer periods with a new hard drive installed?”
Yes. You could get a new HD, install the Mac OS for your system and keep going. Eventually though, something will fail and the cost for replacing it will be high.
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[Dave LaRonde] “Getting things into & out of AE can be problematic, since Apple & Adobe don’t exactly play nice together. There’s software called Automatic Duck that converts FCP edit timelines into AE Compositions, i.e. the things in which you do your effects voodoo. I guess the Motion analogue would be a project. Going out of AE, you have but one choice: rendering. You get used to it.”
Lots of people use this workflow all of the time. One other thing I will point out is that users can export XML of their timeline out of FCP, import it into Premiere Pro and then send that to After Effects. You can either right click on the PR timeline to create an AE comp, or you could open AE and import the entire Premiere Pro timeline.
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[Kurt Larson] “Whats the best way to go about this?”
Use Premiere Pro (of course I am an Adobe guy!) 😉
Seriously, with FCP the solutions outlined are your best approach. Another way you could consider is by leveraging Adobe Media Encoder (analogous to Compressor) and convert it with that. It will be 64-bit (assuming CS5) and should work faster than Compressor.
You’ll also want to convert them to ProRes as FCP generally doesn’t love H.264.