ok mate thanks for your help i will give that a try tomorrow, is that all there is to it? It just seemed that particular was ignoring the fact that I had rotobrushed out the video (which was standing -10 on z axis) and was being obscured once it travelled behind -10z regardless if that area of the video was roto’d or hidden. Other than that everything on particular was working fine.
Sorry to rabble on, its just that I couldn’t find anyone else on the internets who had come across this problem, perhaps I am using an unreliable method?