[Debbie King]

Hi Dave:

When I called the office of several, that’s what I was informed. It’s not about showing you, but that posting anything on the internet eventually gets on the search engines. This is an issue with distribution as well.. So I figured I would comply with the rules just in case.

Many thanks,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi John and Steve :

Thank you so much. You have no idea how refreshing it is to hear this. Yes, when I normalized, the levels that I created where thrown off and the levels were everywhere. I literally would have had to go to each clip and make the adjustments again.

Thanks again.

Best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi Bob:

Thank you. I didn’t normalize or raise the volume first, because there was already noise, lots of it, that needed cleaning. Some of it difficult to clean without leaving some artifacts. So, if I enhanced the volume before cleaning, it would have been much more noise to clean up leaving more artifacts and resulting in me not being able to use the clip. Catch 22! I was given advice to clean first, for that very reason. My thought was, if I am using a software that can see the sound when I cannot hear it, that should suffice, and normalizing should not be a problem. I was wrong. Normalizing found the noise that was not visible before in RX3.

Many thanks,

Debbie

BTW: When I compressed, it made the volume much louder, and I didn’t hear any noise. So I am not sure where the noise came from, except to say that the clips just weren’t fully cleaned. At this stage, I can get more volume through the compression without hearing any additional noise. I’m tempted to stick with this. Thanks DK

[Debbie King]

Hi Bob:

Thank you. I didn’t normalize or raise the volume first, because there was already noise, lots of it, that needed cleaning. Some of it difficult to clean without living some artifacts. So, if I enhanced the volume before cleaning, it would have been much more noise to clean up leaving more artifacts and resulting in me not being able to use the clip. Catch 22! I was given advice to clean first, for that very reason. My thought was, if I am using a software that can see the sound when I cannot hear it, should suffice, and normalizing should not be a problem. I was wrong. Normalizing found the noise that was not visible before in RX3.

Many thanks,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Thanks Grazie and Angelo:

I used RX3 and I didn’t even use my headphones. I watched the graphs which showed that the noise had been eliminated. This is why I felt comfortable compressing. I was told to compress first then normalize. Should I have done it the other way? My thought is that if I had normalized, I would have noticed that noise was still being heard and could have cleaned more. When I went back into those areas that still had noise and opened up RX3 again, a little of noise showed on the graph, but not much. When I deselect normalize and kept the compression then opened RX3, there was no noise on the graph. It took me almost 2 months to clean the audio for.this film. I am so tempted to proceed without normalizing. I just want to get your opinion on whether normalizing is really necessary, although I know that it enhances well. Another thing happened also. Before normalizing I had leveled the volumes to get the audio as close as possible using volume envelopes and the pull down on each clip that needed it. Afterwards, I played the entire film to hear the balance, and it sounded well balanced. When I normalized, it threw everything out of balance, so much so, that I found myself going back to the beginning to level everything again. So, I’m not only recleaning the audio; I’m releveling it also. I have a deadline for this film to be fully completed by end of month, and if I have to redo everything, I will definitely miss it.

My other dilemma is that I am normalizing directly in Vegas, so I cannot determine how much normalization I need or want, as some third party softwares allow. If normalization is necessary, can I normalize directly in RX3 per Track, not clip? I have Cubase. Is it possible to pull the entire audio file into Cubase and normalize there. I have multiple tracks too. Doing it inVegas, has caused problems because where there is noise, I am not in a platform to clean it directly in the software. Also there is another problem that normalizing created. When I cleaned the audio the first time, there was a little artifact on some dialogue, but not audible without headphones, so I kept it. Now, when normalizing, the artifacts are very audible; super metallic without headphones, although no background noise is heard. So, if I decided to normalize that clip first, before cleaning, let’s say, I will have more noise to clean and end up with enhanced artifacts worst than what I already have. Catch 22! Right now, at this stage, I really have a problem, but if I normalize I will. Any advise or should I just leave well enough alone and start the final mix.

I am also trying to get my volume measured for theatre volume, and have been advised on what the levels should be; I believe 85 to 105db. Is that for the master volume after mixing the film between -12 to -6? I have to buy a device to calibrate my speakers, but do I need a third party software to set the RMS? Can I do it directly in Vegas?
I see RMS, I believe, in Wave Hammer Sound.

Many thanks,

Debbie

All the best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi Everyone:

Thank you so much. Your advise is so greatly appreciated. I was able to fix some of it by adding curves red, blue and green adjustments on the entire track, creating a more balanced color, then I went in to each clip and made adjustments. There are about four shots where the difference is very noticeable, and I can’t seem to find the balance.

The particular shots that are so different, I can’t post online as of yet, because of the premiere status of the festivals I am going to be submitting to.

Thank you so much for your help.

All the best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi Lance:

I know this thread is so long ago. Would you be able to tell me how to get the -6db on Wave Hammer Sound? There is no selection, only the levels for output, threshold and ratio. Which one should I level at -6db?

Many thanks.

Best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Thank you so much Roland. It worked. I am very grateful.

Best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi Steve:

Thank you so much for your response. I rechecked the mix console and discovered that all of the tracks had Show Automation Control selected, which made the volume level limit to 6.0. Once I deselected it, the limit became 12.0 automatically. I’m not sure how this happened, but I will check to see if anything sounds different. I suspect it will.

Thanks for probing.

Best,

Debbie

[Debbie King]

Hi Grazie:

I would love this, except I am still laboring on the idea of what I had been told about not revealing any portion of the movie before there is an acceptance to an exhibition; should I get into one. This is why I may have to self contain this project for the time being despite the challenges.

Thank you so much for offering.

Many sincere thanks.

Best,

Debbie