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[Charlie Austin] “I don’t skim clips or scroll beyond an edit point in the timeline or turn source audio channels on and off in PrCC. Because I can’t.”
Actually, you can do all of those things in Pr, but that’s a topic for another thread… 😉
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[Charlie Austin] “f you mean he’s right in that you put an asymmetric dissolve transition on an audio cut in X, yes. If you think he’s right in saying audio editing is somehow hobbled in FCP X because of that then both he, and you, are wrong.”
It all depends on what you’re doing, Charlie. I’ll show you when I get a free minute.
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[John Davidson] “My screen grab accomplishes this almost exactly as you describe. And I do all of it in about 4 seconds.”
LOL, guess I opened a can of worms. 😉
Appreciate the replies guys, but Aindreas is exactly right.
When I get a little free time, I’ll show you why.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “timeline still bugs me. David Lawrence is running logging through it, so on some level it’s turning out to be the ‘first cut’ application Ubillos actually designed it to be.”
As a logging tool, it’s truly the best I’ve ever used. There are little things about the browser UI that could be better, but overall it’s a real pleasure.
The timeline on the other hand is still useless for my needs. Here’s another thing I do with a single keystroke in Premiere that I can’t figure out how to do in FCPX:
Dissolve from black with transition alignment set to beginning (or ending) of clip.
In FCPX, dissolves always center-allign between the gap and the clip. Not what I want.
How do I set transition alignment? Anyone?
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[Craig Alan] “Why do you need to do primary audio overwrites so often? Are you working with ADR?”
Not ADR specifically, but I often have ADR-like needs when building a radio cut and especially when “franken-clipping”.
My editing style is very influenced from working with sound in DAWs. We had a very interesting conversation about this three years ago:
https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/335/16886
Note that trackless DAWs are still basically nonexistent. I think there’s a reason for that.
Also, I think it’s cool that three years later, I’m finally getting my wish to use FCPX as a DAM 🙂
[Craig Alan] “Granted turning FCP X timeline into a hybrid tracked timeline is an extra step
And I do think it could be made more ergonomic.Also granted simple copy paste would be more INTUITIVE since it is universal as you pointed out.
Very simple feature request: overwrite any connected clip with D or command-V.
“Yes. Yes. Yes.
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[Craig Alan] “Also if you really need to do a lot of audio overwrite and other changes to the primary audio as I mentioned above you can
detach audio from the primary clips
create a storyline of these detached audio clips
select an audio clip within the new storyline
shift-F (reveal in browser)
select range to be overwritten
D (overwrite)”Or you could just cut in Premiere, where it only takes a single keystroke 😉
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[Craig Alan] “Little confused David. How would you paste overwrite just the audio from the browser onto an A/V clip without first breaking apart the audio?”
Craig, you are right, apologies for the confusion. What I meant is that you can do an overwrite edit from the browser that overwrites audio as well as video. There needs to be a paste mode in the timeline that works the same way.
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[Brett Sherman] “I’m not sure I’d call that a FAIL at all. If I understand what you’re talking about (and maybe I don’t) typically this operation is used to replace audio in an interview or actuality with blank ambiance. You’re right, the structure of X doesn’t allow that, and won’t ever. But, it’s not something I do a lot of.”
There’s absolutely no technical reason why the timeline structure won’t allow this. You can already do it from the browser.
[Brett Sherman] “I’d call Premiere Pro and Epic FAIL for not being able to open more than one project at a time.”
It’s a bit of an annoyance, but Adobe addressed it pretty nicely by allowing us to peek into projects and selectively import individual sequences and media assets. At this point it’s basically a non-issue for me.
On the other hand, select/copy/overwrite paste audio is something I might do hundreds of times an hour when editing dialog or interview actuality.
Select/copy/overwrite paste isn’t just an NLE thing. It’s one of the most basic actions on any type of digital editor. Even freaking TextEdit does it!
The fact that three years out, it’s still missing from the FCPX timeline is mind-boggling and simply indefensible. That’s why I call it an epic FAIL.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “charlie, without wanting to sound in any way dismissive here – visual understanding has to be a pretty key issue and omission. audio elements are either locked in a VA container, or they are detached elements with no sync information – or are fx stuff and they all jump up and down like yo yos depending on your edit actions. that’s not exactly a massively workable scenario”
Not only that, three years later and you still can’t do a simple copy/overwrite paste of audio in the primary.
Epic FAIL.
BTW, I’ve been using FCPX every day for the past couple months for the gig I’m on as a logging/organizing tool. It’s working beautifully. But I cut in Premiere – still The Honeybadger of Timelinesâ„¢
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[Charlie Austin] “Serious question… how would you define the difference between “browser based” and “sequence based” editing?”
Sequenced-based editing lets you do this:
https://vashivisuals.com/the-pancake-timeline-maximum-limit-is-24-hours/
It’s a lovely technique that has advantages you just can’t get with FCPX’s browser-based editing, as powerful as it is.
For example, in the FCPX browser, every clip appears the same length in the browser window, no matter what its duration. A sequence gives more immediate visual context in regards to clip length. This may be essential information the editor needs.
I’m not saying browser-based editing is less valuable than sequence-based editing, quite the contrary, I think it’s a very powerful and new tool. But sequence-based editing can be just as powerful.
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