David Cherniack
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And how bout ‘ctl home’ and ‘ctl end’ to do what they do in all other apps! If you want to go to the beginning/end of the sequence having to deselect whatever is selected before you push home or end is positively cruel.
David
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Hey, when Friendly gets upset about what’s missing in PPro, you know it’s Serious.
Here’s one that no one seems to have thought of – a set of keystokes to lock and unlock tracks. This would be like ctl 1-9 to toggle video tracks, alt 1-8 to toggle audio tracks. Mousing around to do it is driving me silly.
David
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[Redgum] “David, lighten up. My comments were meant to be humorous”
Redgum(?), in a similar vein, so were mine.
Actually no, I don’t know the limitations of PPro that well as I’m just starting to use it with Axio after 5 years on edit*. edit* had a few quirky areas where the question, “What were they thinking?” would have been equally applicable, but they were confined to areas that weren’t nearly as important as project management. PPro has more than a few of these jaw-droppers, and it has them in a places, like the project window, that are critically important for an efficient workflow.
My attitude right now is to hobble through and see what correctives version 2 brings. If the key problem areas aren’t addressed in an elegant way then I think it will be incumbent on every user who wants to see this software hum to mobilize by way of a strongly worded group letter to the design team. Perhaps that would cause them to sit up and take notice.
David
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[Redgum] “Mentally challenged? Hmmmmm!!! Shooting ratio of 45:1 for a doco? I think the author of this thread may need professional help. Just not sure whether it should be medical or creative! Good luck”
It appears you fall into the category “both” – both never having had to reorganize a hundred plus bins AND ‘mentally challenged’ for your statement about 45:1 being worthy of medical or creative help. Case in point: I didn’t say it was for a one hour now, did I? Case in point 2: If you think a small shooting ratio is the only way to do creative ‘docos’, as you so charmingly put them, then you truly are challenged in more ways than mentally. But hey, if that’s your horse, then happy trails.
David
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[Tim Kolb] “If you could just open a floating bin to transfer clips..”
Or a dual pane explorer interface – not exactly a rare encounter these days. It also really requires a copy/move approach – content shouldn’t be restricted to existing in only one bin. I like to organize clips according to content and a single clip can work in maNy modes.
but again, I find myself asking “WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?”
David
AllinOneFilms.com -
[Tim Kolb] “I hope they do get some traction over the next four quarters however as I’m sure Apple will have to dedicate some resources to porting to Intel…this would be a point where a full charge would be appropriate it seems to me.”
You could well be right about that. I hope those who listen, listen well, and those who keep the schedule running listen, too, especially to the point that 18 months is too long for a development cycle when major workflow useability issues (not to mention bugs) remain.
David
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[Tim Kolb] “All I can say is…this has been heard…”
Did it require much energetic repetition or was it instantly understood?
David
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[BazinoZ] “I love working with stereo tracks AND most if not all my doco’s are shot split track. It is no problem for me to dup/fill left/right etc and it also gives me the ability to quickly see where these are in the timeline… but we all have our own techniques and work arounds for the shortcomings of each software product we use…”
I think the point is not whether it can be worked around, but whether it should have been that way in the first place. It would have been perfectly possible to have stereo tracks AND the option to bring them in as mono.
I doubt whether PPro was deliberately limited because there’s nothing in the Adobe stable that it directly competes against – unlike discrete edit with smoke. As for audio I hope to see the ability to export the entire audio timeline, comple with filters and keyframes directly into Audition for the final mix – though aside from a good noise redution filter the audio capabilities of PPro are pleasantly complete for most mixing tasks. A direct hardware link to a control console would be nice, too.
David
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[Tim Kolb] “some of us neophyte and amateur editors who do use PPro get a little sick of the idea that no “professionals” use it.”
The comment I made was “PPro has some design shortcomings that prevent it from being adopted by the many if not most professional editors.” That’s a mighty long way from “no professionals use it.”
[Tim Kolb] “Too many editors who criticize the application relegate it to “sub-professional” status-thereby relegating current users to the same. It’s not a great way to enlist the assistance of the existing PPro user community in your quest.”
I did relegate it to any kind of sub-professional status. Why would I? I’ll be using PPro from now on with Axio. I find many things about it to be superb. I find many other things about it to be poorly implemented (for professional users AND amateur users) and I attribute the cause to not consulting with enough professional – or if you prefer users ‘experienced’ on multiple platforms doing complex projects – in the design spec phase. I base that conclusion mostly on the stereo tracks design which any editor in a professional working environment would have screamed about like a raving banshee.
But as for uniting the user base to get Adobe to change, I suspect that if they haven’t heard the shouting by now, they never will.
David
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There’s some truth to what you say, but it’s also true you can cut a broadcastable film with a razor blade and a little bit of glue. That’s really not the point. PPro has some design shortcomings that prevent it from being adopted by the many if not most professional editors. That’s the point. Sentiments like “it works, I use it. I’m happy.” just encourage acceptance of some glaringly poor design choices and the snail’s pace of its evolution into a top of the line editor. It’s not that the potential isn’t there. There just seems to be a lack of will to realize it. We’ll see with version 2.
David
AllinOneFilms.com