[Dave Kulawick]

Thanks for asking Larry. But I must admit I’d have thought you’d be the guy who knew. I know people have finished features on PPro, but I, like you, am looking for someone who’s done the cutting and taken the project from 15+ hours down to 48 minutes; what’s the media handling like, how does the binning help/hinder finding stuff, how many versions of a given scene, act, or entire version can I have open simultaneously, etc. etc. All the long-form doc issues that edit* handles so easily.

dbk

[Dave Kulawick]

would that it were so simple. regarding people in public spaces; there is no right to privacy in canada, but producers have been stung for defamation when sued by an “anonymous” person in a visual that was used as b-roll for script with which the subject disagreed. have a look for The Journalists Legal Guide by Michael Crawford for more on that subject. I’ve also been advised by doc producers that you’re always wise to get consent; one producer related the story of shooting a high school basketball game after handing out a loonie [$1 coin] and obtaining a signed release from everyone in the room. it’s not a contract unless there is some consideration exchanged for the signature, apparently.

I have to ask though, how ‘use of music in a promotional video falls under the “Acts Undertaken without motive of Gain”‘. Isn’t most promotion done in the expectation of future gain? Isn’t the production house “gaining” by billing the client for producing the promotional video? Don’t composers deserve to get paid for their efforts? I know editors like to.

That said; I just had a look at the Act, and it’s pretty clear that one shouldn’t rely on legal advice from a Trebas “professor”!

https://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/
https://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/cipo/cp/copy_gd_main-e.html

[Dave Kulawick]

This is a very interesting thread. I have a couple of questions for those of you who have responded.

“Thats about one week to log and capture approx 20-25 hrs of footage”, I assume your logging and capturing everything? If you’re using FCP, do you log then capture, or capture and then log? You ratio is over 30:1. Can you be more specific about the show? Sorry, INHD2 is not available in Canada, to my knowledge. Do you get to see the shooting scripts? Are there any notes?

and Shane, on your 3 week sched, what kind of production is that? Scripted?

I work in a University; typical show is sort-of scripted, and sort-of logged. I find I’m often seeing visuals that have been overlooked, and lot’s of unused actuality which is what makes docs, in my mind. The sched is usually 1 35 hour work week per production, which range anywhere from 16:00 to 55:00 running time. And that 35 hour work week is what I’m paid for and in no wise reflects my actual hours.

“take incrementally longer to finish the closer I get to the end.” I think of it as like painting a room, in that the last 10% of coverage takes a lot more than 10% of the time.

Thanks!

[Dave Kulawick]

Does this VTR have a TC IN? Can it do Free Run TC?

I’ve captured analog sources through a Pan AJ-D455 VTR set to Free Run TC and Firewire to the Mac.

Have a look at https://www.virtualvtr.com/pictureready/index.html

That ones pretty cool cause it will actually let you log material while you’re capturing, a feature that would make FC Really Pro if it could do it.

dbk

[Dave Kulawick]

Walter, I am sorry if you feel as if you’ve been slapped. No offense was intended to any editor.

I do want to point out that the symbol “?” typically indicates a question, not a statement.

It was a question because it’s been suggested by more than one credible source that this kind of thing does in fact happen. But you’re right; there is a world of difference between the provision of free software, hardware, and/or technical support and “a cheque”.

[Dave Kulawick]

and….?

[Dave Kulawick]

This isn’t true in Canada, or Great Britain. Repeating a slander makes you as liable as the one that uttered it in the first place.

I’d follow Mark’s excellent advice to start at documentary.org and educate yourself, and then I suggest that you talk to an real expert, ie. a lawyer; that is if you’re hoping this piece you’re working on will be distributed and/or broadcast. This is a bit like post-production; I tell producers “you can consult me before you shoot, or you can plow ahead and pay me to fix it in post, your choice”. Why do I think legal advice works similarly?

dbk

[Dave Kulawick]

Ooops. It is Autocue, the product is QLog.

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Dave Kulawick
Instructional Media
Carleton University

[Dave Kulawick]

There are a number of tools that try to do this, any speech-to-text tool is doing that anyway. I’ve heard from people who’ve tried to use these tools in an automated CC generator, or in an effort to index content for searching and the 85% accuracy that can be achieved is “not good enough”.

A more interesting way of searching audio was described to me by someone from Autocue…..you take a sample of the word your looking for and have the tool search the recorded waveform for other instances of that waveform! F-ing cool idea, I thought. particularly as you wouldn’t need to create an index [transcription] of the audio for this to work.

I do not know whether this is in-the-pipe or a shipping product.

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Dave Kulawick
Instructional Media
Carleton University

[Dave Kulawick]

Yeah, everything but log the footage, right? Or mark some subclips. Or enter some comments. Or set some cue markers. It’s Final Cut Semi-Pro until I can enter some metadata while the media is inbound. Come on; fast processors, native media processing therefore no trans-coding, QT finally multi-threaded….what’s the problem Apple?

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David Kulawick
Instructional Media
Carleton University

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