Dan Stewart
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Hey Aindreas buy me a pint and I’ll get you up to speed on Avid in an hour after work in soho.
BTW has this been posted? Love it..
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Yeah but with a script..
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I get a -2 down vote for saying FCP is dead when apple EOL’d it. Smells of apple shills.
I took this thread as a serious question that I might have asked under the extraordinary circumstances had they happened when I was getting started a few years ago. Where to invest our time is no joke..
Bill, Chris and others seem to me, and I’m not trying to insult anyone, to have an economic interest in pushing people into unreasonably supporting fcpx. I suspect this is how they feed their families. I don’t know.
I learned hard and I do 10 hour days in the UK broadcast industry. If you are going to have a life anything like mine, don’t invest time in fcpx. At least for a few years till it has earned your attention.
‘New paradigm’ aside, it can’t interface with any remotely professional setup, it can’t even feed a client monitor for Christ sake. Anyone defending it, IMHO, doesn’t do 10 hour days with nowhere to hide for serious people who absolutely do not know, care or tolerate an editors problem with their tools.
There have been enthusiastic defences on the cow from students, people who do web video, booth interfaces, virals and so on. For this work you have time and privacy to play and tolerate wilful idiosyncrasy and experimentation. Fine. I’m not talking about that, only to those on the cow who are following the path I followed. Others can ignore or down vote, obfuscate and belittle.
A wrong step in circumstances like this would have really hurt me back in the day ( like 5 years ago). I don’t care about the companies in question, apple, avid, adobe. I am no fanboy. But apple are out of the game. They have betrayed the technically illiterate production managers and edit producers and those girls are slow to catch on. But they will and apple will not be forgiven by those who recommended them and are now struggling to explain the situation to their bosses. Jesus, the cow can’t even figure it out.
Premiere is, rightly or wrongly, a non event for freelancers, at least in london. I haven’t even tried to use it since 4.2 ( and god was it a ball ache then). I just don’t have time. Its all avid.
Apple are out of the game unless they fix FCPX fast. And they have shown absolutely no intention to do so. Andreas has been on the money since the super meet and I was worried then too (look at the posts). Apple turned it into a domestic toy. I can almost forgive the desperate excuses and revisionism for Chris, Bill and co – even if it’s just cognitive dissonance rather that deliberate Machiavellian obfuscation – we all had a shock at our treatment. I know two post houses in soho that invested huge sums in the ‘all FCP futuristic post avid future’. And they were very, very concerned at Apples approach to pro apps for the last few years, but with sort of dissonant optimism you can find on this forum. One sold up, I’m hesitant to call the other because I like those guys and it’s a terrible thing that apple have done to them. And there’s nothing I can do or say for them.
To sum up: if your life is anything like mine – self taught broadcast editor, 10 hours a day, working for pretty much everyone at some point and only as good as his last job – fcpx is a toy for ambitious iMovie users. There is just NO QUESTION of it being used in my world, and no one living in said world can wait a couple more years to see if apple get back to being serious about pro work. We can’t. If you have a couple of years to spare like bill and Chris, or this is a hobby, or you work alone with no pressure, then ignore me.
To the young me ( and the Cow has been a LIFESAVER to me ) don’t waste your time with this toy. There’s no evidence apple will ever make good. I can’t comment on other markets but if you’re in London, get as slick as you can with media composer, period. if apple see the light and save FCP studio 3 from oblivion then things will be different.
Ok conscience clear. Over to Chris and bill.
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Fcp studio is dead, history, kaput, gone forever. If you’re buying / adding suites to your facility or sharpening your freelance skills then It’s the ‘new paradigm’ that no pro no where is using -and wait a few years to see if you’re wasting your time- or get a proper functioning tool and get back to work.
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Hear hear.
And Bill, maybe read your own signature block, or get rid of it, it’s making you look foolish. -
Fellas this is now also a de facto therapy group, deal with it.
Apple offered us sweeties and molested us.
Time will heal. So knock off the fascist ‘personality type’ shit.
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Seriously I agree with Sean. We don’t have an imovie forum and they share a great deal.
How about iMovie/FCPX ?
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Chris Kenny do you work for apple /have dizzy spells/ not know what you are talking about?
I am about to start an hour for the BBC, tight as hell in 5 weeks. I stopped in the edit (in house, natch) to see if all was ok. I’m on FCP. Great. Thats what they’ve been spending their money on the last few years, that’s what they’ve got. I asked them if they heard it was dead and got a response akin to a serious optimist regarding his burnt out house.
The EP reassured me they were in touch with Apple and it was all going to be fine, missing crucial features will be added, possibly by third party etc.
I joked about $500 for XML support. She looked a bit sick. A lot of Apple fans (I was one too once) recommended Apple over Avid to the bosses.Apple, or their shills, are out there seriously f-*&ing with people. They clearly just hijacked the FCP PRO name to sell imovie+ to people who don’t know better and are OBFUSCATING and DECEIVING PEOPLE. They have no intention of making good, just smiling and telling people it’ll be fine while the gang climb out the rear window and plan to monetize some more of their predecessors hard earned rep.
When these edit producers realise they’ve been mugged Apple will be finished in the pro space round here until everyone alive right now dies.
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In English we say:
1. work under pressure in teams with expensive equipment to earn food = professional
2. help Randy make his holiday videos = amateur
and now new definition:
Rely on Apple = amateur