Chris Kenny
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[Jamie Franklin] “They EOL’d software without warning…putting back OLD software because people were rightly upset doesn’t excuse Apples moves here and regain “trust”.”
Wait, so your objection is that they didn’t continue developing the classic FCP codebase?
[Jamie Franklin] “Redesigning how we edit isn’t a new paradigm, it’s redesigning how we edit, and not embracing it doesn’t make us haters, or irrational as you are insinuating…”
I haven’t actually said (or insinuated) any such thing.
[Jamie Franklin] “This argument is exactly the same as a year ago. “
Yeah, which is kind of bizarre given that many of the arguments advanced against FCP X then are no longer relevant. It now has (either internally or as part of its ecosystem) the basic feature set required to be usable for things like broadcast TV and feature film editing. The fact that Apple essentially went right down the list adding these things should alleviate concerns that Apple intended to abandon markets that required them. Yet somehow the anti-FCP X narrative seems to have changed not at all.
[Jamie Franklin] “Honestly, the ones who haven’t really moved on here are the Apple fanatics…only now you are getting worse because there have been “updates”….”
Err… we’re “worse” because we now have a stronger argument?
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[Herb Sevush] “The MacPro currently sticks out like a sore thumb in Apple’s current line of consumer gadgets.”
I don’t know quite how true this is. The MacBook Pro is also a fairly high-end performance focused machine, and is marketed as such. (The current subheading on its product page is “State-of-the-art processors. All-new graphics. Breakthrough high-speed I/O”.)
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[Jules bowman] “Magnetic trackless timeline is stupid. Renaming things is stupid. A project isn’t an event. The world cup is an event. The queen’s jubilee is an event. Your project is not an event. No manual save is insane. “
You’re stating opinions as facts.
[Jules bowman] “This is not an upgrade to fcp7 which is how it was sold.”
Apple was quite open about FCP X’s differences and its lack of backwards compatibility.
[Jules bowman] “But more than anything EOLing the software I had invested 8 years of my life in after making me wait for the awesome upggrade which never came is the rudest a company has ever been to me”
It was obvious to careful observers for years that classic FCP was going scraped and entirely replaced. There were clear technical considerations that made this necessary. So could you be more specific about your objection here? Is it simply that you wish the replacement had been a little more similar to classic FCP?
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[Herb Sevush] “Given that HP announced they would be shipping the HP820 with the Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons at the end of May, and announced it the day the chips were formally announced by Intel, how is it that Apple, with their wonderful relationship to Intel, can’t get these same chips in quantity?”
If HP can get them in quantity in late May Apple presumably can as well. But why expect an announcement? Sure, HP made one, but Apple rarely announces Mac updates six weeks in advance of availability. In fact, the Mac Pro is a pretty low-profile product for Apple these days — it’s not impossible there will be no advance announcement at all, and the new models will simply appear in the online store one day.
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[Jamie Franklin] “In delicate terms, that is the opposite of being true. They don’t trust Apple for a variety of reasons, the least of which is their completely disingenuous performance at NAB, rolling out a product they NEVER said was meant for imovie and facebook support with “upmarketing” to “come”.”
That would be an interesting point if that were a remotely valid description of the initial release of FCP X. But it’s not. That construction is born out of the notion that the video editing market is divided into broadcast TV, feature films, and YouTube hobbyists, and if a product isn’t suitable for the first two groups it must be targeted at the last. This is simply wrong — the actual world of paid professional video editing is far larger than broadcast TV content and feature film production, and FCP X, even in its initial incarnation, had a feature set suitable for a sizable fraction of the market. (You might argue it was a little too buggy for it to be a great idea for people to adopt it immediately, but that’s a common failing in 1.0 releases and says nothing about Apple’s motivations.)
[Jamie Franklin] “you had almost near contempt for people that were rightly justified at the EOLing a product they based their workflows, jobs and built their houses around…with NO warning…”
Pulling Final Cut Studio was clearly an error, but it was never literally unavailable, and Apple put it back on sale when people expressed their concerns. I’m not sure how Apple making a mistake and correcting it in response to feedback justifies long-term distrust.
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[Jules bowman] “Are those who think magnetic trackless timeline is wrong stupid people to you? Antiquated dinosaurs? Just wrong?”
If they were saying “I don’t like this”, that would be one thing. Many of them are saying something more like “This is inherently broken and impossible to use for professional work, and furthermore demonstrates that Apple is abandoning professional users to go make shiny gadgets”.
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[Chris Harlan] “I’m more cynical than you are. My guess is that they just don’t want to be pegged down about anything, ever. They kept Shake alive years even though they had internally killed it, simply to have that option. Mac Pro is the same thing.”
The Sandy Bridge E5 Xeons are new enough that Apple’s lack of a Mac Pro update doesn’t really mean anything either way yet. Especially since Intel sometimes formally “ships” a processor well before it’s actually available in quantities useful to OEMs.
I’d put the odds of there being at least one more Mac Pro revision at 80%. After that, who knows. If the next Xeon update after this one isn’t for another two years, the number of customers who still need Mac Pros at that point — with on-board GPUs on iMacs and Minis being that much more powerful and a much more mature ecosystem around Thunderbolt — will probably be substantially smaller than it is today. And it’s already pretty small.
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[Eric Parker Andersen] “Although I’m sure the haters will say ‘too little too late’, I’m having a good experience with the improved broadcast monitoring in FCPX. “
I’ve also recently been testing that, and the workflow with Resolve. Things seem pretty smooth.
The truth is, 99% of the argument against using FCP X for serious work has disappeared. The “it’s not a pro app” narrative is running on fumes. Apple has diligently added broadcast monitoring, better audio export options, multicam, XML. Stability is much improved and performance (especially with long projects) is better. Third parties have filled in gaps like importing FCP 7 projects.
The chief argument against FCP X these days seems to be that people don’t trust Apple because… why? Because Apple didn’t hold the entire app off of the market until these features were done, despite the fact that the app was useful to much of FCP’s existing user base (and a bunch of other people besides) even without them? I can’t really make sense of it. People try to argue for jumping to Media Composer, despite the danger posed by Avid’s awkward financial situation. They try to argue for jumping to Premiere, forgiving Adobe for all of its canceled apps — of which there have been a fair number over the years, including the original Premiere.
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[Craig Seeman] “HP has nixed Thunderbolt and Dell certainly hasn’t stepped forward there either. So even as Thunderbolt moves to Windows, Apple is the number one PC maker as far as far sales of Thunderbolt PCs are concerned (baring a radical jump in Lenovo, Acer, Asus sales).”
Or take EFI, Intel’s modern boot architecture. Intel Macs have all used it since there have been Intel Macs, over six years now. (Wow, has it really been that long?) Microsoft didn’t support it until Windows 7 and it’s still not widely used in the Wintel world.
Intel clearly values Apple as a partner with whom new technologies can be rolled out without waiting on Microsoft’s often sluggish Windows release cycle or dealing with the Wintel OEMs’ extreme price sensitivity.
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[Joseph Owens] “Frankly, I don’t think they know what they’re doing, since the GPU is built into the logic board and of course it has failed. So really, I’m just waiting for it to fail again (because the replacement is the exact same defective build) which will trigger a return trip to shove the machine and their repair bill somewhere the sun don’t shine.”
I got whacked by this same GPU problem a couple of years ago and was told in the store that my production batch wasn’t covered (I guess it wasn’t supposed to have this problem?), but the symptoms all fit. Anyway, I just called Apple’s support number, explained the symptoms, and they were happy to set up a repair that way. They paid for overnight shipping both ways, fixed the machine and mailed it back out same day, and replaced my broken optical drive (despite the machine being out of warranty).
It would have been nice if they’d just fixed it overnight in the store, but overall not too bad. A less savvy user probably would have ended up paying for the motherboard replacement, however.
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