Chris Jacek
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[Chris Kenny] “You are now attempting to use this single point, out of context, to justify not responding to any of my augments.”
You really just want to fight, and nothing else, don’t you? Sorry, not interested. I’d say let’s just agree to disagree, but I doubt you’d even agree to that.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Walter Soyka] “This may not speak to Apple’s dedication to pros, but I think it does speak about their focus.”
Or lack thereof? Maybe Apple can take some Ritalin.
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[Herb Sevush] “It was rolled out when it was because it had the feature set that was aimed at their target market: emerging video makers, pro’s creating work to be distributed on the web, shops who’s workflow doesn’t require collaboration. Many of these people are by definition professional, many of those that aren’t will one day be. So yes, FCPX is absolutely “Pro” if that’s the definition of the word you want to use.”
I agree completely. The word “pro” is becoming as ambiguous as the word “producer.” That’s why, whenever I remember to do so, I try to use other terms like “traditional professionals” or “power users.”
Apple wants to create a new class of professionals, which they hope will be larger and less demanding than the “traditional professionals” that had been their FCP user base. This is certainly achievable.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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After Effects is the Swiss Army Knife of effects and animation. It also offers the most control of what you want to do, especially if you like a timeline style of interface, It does take some time to learn, but it’s not that hard to pick up the basics fairly quickly. There are oodles of good online training, too.
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[Chris Kenny] “I’ve advanced a substantive argument in this thread, in response to your direct request, and you’ve chosen to ignore my points and respond by attacking me personally. I can’t quite figure out how you think this benefits your case.”
I disagree. You are more often prone to knee-jerk defensiveness than thoughtful discourse, and I don’t want to play that game any more. Anything that threatens your desire to see Apple as infallible is met with resistance.
Unfortunately, your responses that are thoughtful and substantive are marginalized by some of your other responses. If you are going to argue against every single negative word, even if it means resorting to illogical positions like “Apple wouldn’t call it pro if it wasn’t”, you are going to diminish your credibility.
We are trying to make sense out of the everchanging industry that we work in, and need to open-mindedly consider whichever path that leads us down. Doggedly defending the Apple like a mother cub (sorry for the animal mixed metaphors) only serves to cloud rational debate.
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[Andrew Richards] “Is Apple moving away from the market, or is a slice of the market moving away from Apple? Seems to me this mobile workstation niche is a relatively recent market development and probably too narrow for Apple to pursue. I don’t read what is happening as Apple abandoning pros, I read it as Apple not chasing dragons in the form of hardware niches that won’t sell sufficient volumes to justify development (again, see Xserve).
They’d need to create a whole new segment of their product line to meet the specs you’d like to see, and that ain’t gonna happen for the sake of a few thousand potential sales.”
I think we’re mostly in agreement here, and it is a good chicken/egg question. It might be more accurate to say that the traditional pro market and Apple are moving in different directions. I do think that truly powerful mobile workstations are only a recent phenomenon, due to new technologies. What is possible in a big laptop now is truly mind boggling, but you do have to commit to a bulkier laptop.
I think there is still a decent segment of the market that likes to have that kind of power in an 8-10 pound laptop. Count me as one of them. The fact that I can still put this computer into my backback, and take all my projects with me without offlining, is pretty attractive.
Apple seems uninterested in that market. The question is whether that market will become uninterested in Apple. If so, that is Apple and the traditional pro market shifting away from each other. If so, both sides will probably be fine with the change.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Chris Kenny] “In other words, you’re saying I’m not to be trusted because my position is too comprehensive. OK, then.”
Yes, that’s EXACTLY what I’m saying. You are so brilliant than you thoroughly knock down EVERY argument that EVERY person makes, no matter how much logic or evidence is behind those arguments. And you do it with SUCH class Chris. I’m in awe.
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[Bill Davis] “MASSIVE pipes change EVERYTHING. The location of nodes becomes unimportant when the data FLIES around an optical racetrack as fast as the one envisioned in the TB future roadmap.
Simple as that.”
That’s not as true on laptops as it is on desktops. At the end of the day, any peripheral that you have to connect, makes it less mobile. You can’t daisy chain a bunch of peripherals on a plane. So yes, there absolutely is value to a dedicated graphics card, unless you are looking at a laptop as nothing but a terminal used to control other equipment. At that point, you’ve lost all the advantages of going small.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Chris Kenny] “You asked me to provide alternative explanations for Apple actions that you believe represent Apple abandoning the pro market, and to provide a positive argument for the idea that Apple was not doing this. I did so, in significant detail… and your response is to ignore everything except a single point and tell me you can’t take me seriously because I responded to all of your concerns?”
Frankly, I just decided to pick the one that bothered me most. I don’t have the energy to keep up with you. You incessantly try to defend Apple against EVERY SINGLE CRITICISM any person on this board has had. I chose to refute this one, because I think it best illustrates your fervent state of defensiveness against any comment made against the infallible Apple.
I think I could knock down at least half of your “significantly detailed” responses, but you’ve worn me down, so I guess I’ll just say “you win.” You’re right about everything, and we’re all part of the vast conspiracy.
Professor, Producer, Editor
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[Chris Kenny] “Apple has never had a product in that category. Certainly not in the last decade, since the introduction of the Titanium PowerBook. This is another instance where people are making the argument that Apple is shifting directions by, essentially, misrepresenting Apple’s past direction.
“It’s not an argument of the past. These mobile workstations are quite possibly the trend of the future for video professional, and Apple does not want to be a part of that. They want to redefine what video professionals are. If that redefinition is to sacrifice power for size and cool factor, then it is not a large leap of logic to assume that they are trying to appeal to a different group. It would be smart business.
Professor, Producer, Editor
and former Apple Employee