Chris Harlan
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I didn’t say it had to be for every clip. It was a very specific example for Herb’s specific need.
“I get that now. My bad. And my apologies. I read your statement to mean that there was no reason ever to separate audio. I was wondering how we could be so far apart. Stupid me.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “Do you actually have to do this kind of high density, granular audio editing?”
I don’t really use ADR, but the rest of it sounds like a normal day of editing.
So, yes.
[Chris Harlan] ” Trying to do this without separating audio sounds crazy to me. ”
Isn’t that how you are doing it now? Audio is in a separate space than video?
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I guess I’m just going to have to be skeptical. You’ve made a really bold statement that there is no reason to ever separate audio from video. Since that has never been the case in any other NLE, ever, you can understand my doubt. If what you are saying is true, then I guess you don’t need sync markers, but I’m having a very hard time believing it. How do you deal with stems that aren’t initially attached, and only match with time code? Doesn’t having an unnecessary 18 layers of audio attached to every single clip bog things down a bit? Doesn’t having hidden video for every single clip you are using get cludgy pretty fast? It seems like a nightmare to me.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “Well, I’m fascinated by that. I have to clip chunks out of sentences, slide a clause a few frames this way or that under a cut-away, only to have to reconnect it in a different version of the edit. I have to retime dialog, drop in ADR, shave this way and shave that way, constantly. Me? I use sync markers and TC. How you are doing all that fine-tuning and finessing without have to separate audio from video and slide it around, I would truly like to hear.”
I guess my question back is, what is preventing you from doing this in fcpx?
“I’m sure there is a way that I could end up achieving what I needed to. From what I can fathom, though, it sounds like a real PITA. Do you actually have to do this kind of high density, granular audio editing? Trying to do this without separating audio sounds crazy to me. To me, it sounds like I’d end up with a massive clog of crud.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “THAT is quite a statement! Apparently you don’t have to do much dialog work.”
The pieces I am working on are all dialog.
“Well, I’m fascinated by that. I have to clip chunks out of sentences, slide a clause a few frames this way or that under a cut-away, only to have to reconnect it in a different version of the edit. I have to retime dialog, drop in ADR, shave this way and shave that way, constantly. Me? I use sync markers and TC. How you are doing all that fine-tuning and finessing without have to separate audio from video and slide it around, I would truly like to hear.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Put simply, there’s no reason to disconnect the audio in the first place, just leave it there and turn it off and on as you see fit, the dynamic timeline adjusts.
“THAT is quite a statement! Apparently you don’t have to do much dialog work.
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[Craig Seeman] ” replace the 8 track.
“Yes, it would be nice if they could replace the 8 track, er 24 mono track limitation.
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[David Lawrence] “[Chris Kenny] “FCP X’s main timecode display (which is clearly designed to look a bit like a sixteen segment display under glass, though if you pay attention you’ll notice it renders some numbers in ways an actual segmented display can’t) is ‘retro chic’.
Not using modern font rendering algorithms for text in bins and dialogs because you’ve never updated your software to do so is just ‘legacy’.”
Yeah, because everyone knows that a main timecode display rendered as skeumorphic sixteen-segment lights under glass is way more important than something like out-of-sync indicators in a drab, aliased font.
“Uh-huh. But what sparkles better?
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[Chris Kenny] “simple things should be simple'”
You know what should be simple? Sync markers. Visual relative time code. The ability to relink and re-sync audio and video once its been disconnected.
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[Steve Connor] “[Chris Harlan] “Wasn’t 4.2 when it became theoretically “useable?”
Theoretically, yes, practically, no. I got fed up with clients asking what the ‘horse” was about on the bootup screen and we saw the boot up screen a lot in those days.
“That was my reaction, too. Of course, I only tried it out.
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We’ve gone from My Little Pony to flogging a dead horse! Wasn’t 4.2 when it became theoretically “useable?”