Chris Harlan
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[David Lawrence] “[Aindreas Gallagher] “don’t you miss proper waveforms at all in FCPX? I detest those small, vector style interpretations of the waveform data.”
Spot on. The FCPX waveform display is a joke. Utter garbage. Another example of the engineering mindset oversimplifying something it doesn’t fully understand. At least have a preference for proper waveforms. Sheesh!
“I agree with that.
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[David Lawrence] “Yep, exactly right. Simple, fast, and subframe precise. I thought everyone worked this way. Guess there’s still a few advanced audio tricks in legacy for people to learn. 😉
“I’m sure there are still tricks for everybody to learn. That was what was so beautiful about pre-X. There are just so many different ways to do things. Wish I’d know about this one, though. I’ve been cleaning up >1/30 second audio in an external wave editor for years before I started with FCP. Of course, you can’t alter or bend the pitch, or stretch a syllable, or add a tiny bit of verb, but this method would help me out about half the time I need to do this.
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[David Lawrence] “Give it a try and let me know what you think.”
Sounds good. I do an extreme amount of dialog cutting and replacing. Its a shame I didn’t know about this earlier.
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[David Lawrence] “I’ve been using this technique for years. It’s especially handy for dialogue cutting.
“Dang! I almost never rubber-band with in FCP. I didn’t know that existed. Whenever I have to get in there like that, I just send it to Soundtrack Pro. I’ll have to try that during my remaining stay in FCPville.
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[Craig Seeman] “[Chris Harlan] “[Carsten Orlt] “Sample level audio editing all the time.”
Totally agree.”
Page 552 of FCPX User Guide
subframe A subframe has 1/80 the duration of a video frame and is thus a more precise unit of reference when editing audio at the sample level.
“No, its totally cool. I cut Carsten short when I quoted him. I’m agreeing with him that I think the sub-frame audio editing is bitchin’.
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[Carsten Orlt] “Sample level audio editing all the time.”
Totally agree.
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[Greg Andonian] “I don’t know what a ‘ringshifter’ is, but it sounds interesting- and if it’s going to help improve the quality of my audio I’d rather it not be hidden from me…
“I’m really not sure how often anyone would want to use a ringshifter filter in video. Maybe to help make alien or robot voices or sweeten some other sci-fi sfx. Though, I personally, would choose other filters. Certainly not to “improve the quality”. Its part phaser and does something with the pitch. It offers a tinny, sort of decaying sound that has kind of a disco feeling for me. Its really aimed at sweetening instruments. But, hey–its a hoot that you can access it straight from the timeline instead of having to go to Soundtrack Pro. Now, if only there were a mixer, too.
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[tony west] “I agree with him when he says that Apple wanted to “hide” a lot of the controls away and power in X
For those who would never know of, or work with the ringshifter they wouldn’t have to look at it.
But maybe they did too good of a job hiding.
I think they “assumed” that pros would find these controls and unlock the door to some of it’s power.
I think that was a bad assumption.
“Tony, thanks for the heads up. I watched the video. None of that stuff was hidden from me, but I liked watching the demo. I’ll just say what I said over on the other forum: It was an interesting look, and quite fair. The depth of filters is great, but the handling of multiple tracks is still so awkward. I liked seeing rolls in action, though. I also liked the way he summed the presentation up:
Its not identical to working in a proper audio system but it does provide a little of the control were used to.
I’d say that’s a pretty fair analysis.
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Chris Harlan
May 5, 2012 at 7:50 pm in reply to: Michael Wohl presentation on advanced Audio in FCPX[Steve Connor] “It will get there, Apple have said audio is the next big push.
“That’d sure make me happy. Audio is THE major bugaboo for me at this point. Well, and no auto-save or easy manual backup.
The video was an interesting look, and quite fair. The depth of filters is great, but the handling of multiple tracks is still so awkward. I liked seeing rolls in action, though. I also liked the way he summed the presentation up:Its not identical to working in a proper audio system but it does provide a little of the control were used to.
I’d say that’s a pretty fair analysis.
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[Lance Bachelder] “Saw the Sony FS700 in Sony 4K Theater – 240fps looks fantastic and $8,000 price is a bargain for this camera especially once they unlock the 4K port. Sony will sell a LOT of FS700’s!”
I saw amazing slo-mo footage from this. It drives me nuts that nothing I do will ever justify me purchasing it.