Chris Harlan
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This doesn’t help your argument at all. I’m not disputing PC sales are down. Of course they are.
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Agreed. I’ve had my share of Mac adventures, usually related to OS X, Quicktime or iTune updates. The eSATA driver thing was a major PITA. And my experience with PCs has been about the same, which is to say every bit as rock solid and occasionally problematic. The major thing you have to do with PCs is keep folks from downloading a lot of cr@p, especially free games and virus-laden screen savers.
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[Craig Seeman] “I strongly disagree. I’m not inclined to dig up all the numbers at the moment “
Nor am I, so we’ll just have to say our gut feelings strongly disagree. I DO agree that laptops will represent the lion share of future PC sales. I don’t quite follow what you are trying to say, though. I think maybe we aren’t quite on the same page about what it is we are talking about.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “What it is is that its cheeper for the non-discerning,”
But of course.
That does not describe the people that frequent this forum, however.
“True. I’m just talking about “the myth.” On our level its more about options than price–the array of available GPUs, Xeon configs and RAM.
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No, no, no. Caffeine is king. And, with coffee I paint it black.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Is it really that easy? I always read about mother board conflicts and when you are talking about a professional video setup with capture cards, storage cards, etc, its not as easy as “just changing it”.
“Actually, while conflicts can occur, they are rare and getting rarer. It generally is “that easy.” It was a huge shock for me when I moved over to Apple products, years back, how few customization options were available. And, how expensive they were in comparison. GPUs would be a prime example of this.
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[Craig Seeman] “I have a hunch that actually many such people are moving to Tablets, hence the decline in PC sales overall.
Also the margins for the manufacturers of computers at the lower end of the market is so low that there’s no business reason for Apple to go there.
“Yes and no, and yes. Certainly a lot of people are getting tablets, but Excel, Word, Quicken, and Quickbooks really aren’t really tablet fare. The decline in computer sales is, I think, much more because everyone already has one, and not because they are moving to tablets. For everyone I know, and most people I can imagine, tablets are a secondary device. They are quite successful at consuming media, but not really in demand as a meat-and-potatoes device. At least not yet. PC sales are down only from a historic high.
And of course Apple’s not going to go after the low end of the market. I don’t think anyone suggested that, but maybe I missed that part of the thread.
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With all due respect–Coca Cola is Cr@p. Pepsi, specifically diet Pepsi, is the real thing.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “But what I was trying to point out is the when people say the get a “way cheaper” PC, it’s in the i7 range which is why I started to look comparatively.”
What it is is that its cheeper for the non-discerning, plus there are far more turn-over deals available on last generation equipment with far greater mark-downs than are available for Macs. My dad just got a nice little Windows 8 machine based on an i5 for under 500 bucks. Its zippy enough for all of the things he likes to do, and has a solid build. He wouldn’t see the difference with an i7. It a replaces a 5 year old whatever-the-heck-it-was processor and seems in comparison like a race car from another planet.
The majority of computer users in this world are probably in my dad’s camp, hence the widely held belief that Macs are currently overpriced.
As a side note–I really enjoyed playing around with Windows8. Maybe its because I’ve been told by so many people (mostly Mac people) that I’d hate it, but I found it quite a bit of fun. I’d be quite interested in playing with the full Windows 8 version of the Surface when it ships. Not that I need anymore toys.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “There has to be more meat on the bone there, and Phi with the release dates, Tim Cook’s “later in 2013” comment, the tea leaves, and watching all the processing instructions FCPX can do concurrently, all of that seems to be in alignment. Perhaps it’s just false hope on my part, but I’m not afraid to be wrong. 😉
“I just love it, Jeremy! Its glass all full here. If you’re right, I get to put my hands on an awesome machine. And, if you’re not, I get to point out just how wrong you were. Totally win-win from my POV.