Chris Devere
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In the interest of resurrecting this post to answer a question I have right now.
Does anyone have any input about how frequency and CAS latency affects After Effects? Like say, whether performance would be improved in any measurable way by going with 3600mhz over 2400mhz of DDR4?
How about CAS latency, is memory that is CL14 better/faster than memory that is CL18 specifically as it relates to After Effects?
– Chris
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“Imagine that rendering is like woodworking, and that RAM is like your workbench. If you have a big enough workbench, you can keep all your materials and tools on the workbench where you can get to them fastest. But if your workbench is too small, you’ll have to store your materials and tools over on the shelves while you’re building. Every time you move from one task to the next, you might have to put something away to make room to retrieve something else. You can’t use the glue until you’ve put away the hammer.”
That is hands down the most beautifully perfect description of memory usage and why having more is better that I have ever seen.
– Chris
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I didn’t include memory because it was outside of the scope of the post, I’ll be getting 64GB of RAM unless I can guarantee that I will be able to get 128GB (4x32GB) to work with this MoBo/Processor combo with the BIOS update that Gigabyte offers. I haven’t done the requisite research to know for sure what it entails and what it applies to so for now I’m planning on 4x16GB of G.Skill 3333Mhz DDR4.
As far as switching to AMD, that’s possible but I have to admit that I tend to be partial to Intel/NVidia/MSi components, and Gigabyte Motherboards. AMD would have to show up in a big way to get me to switch but ultimately I’m looking for the best system I can build in the sub-workstation class parts realm.
I’m also switching the MoBo in the OP from the Aorus Pro WiFi to the Aorus Z390 Master because it supports 3 NVMe drives.
– Chris
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Another fantastic reply.
I also worry about SSD write capacity, I have every part of my AE projects on a different drive, which seems to have sorted a lot of the issues I was dealing with before when I was working off of one SSD, having moved from the dual GTX-770 in sli setup that this (second hand) computer came with the a GTX-1060 certainly didn’t hurt either. I have my OS, Software, and project folders on on 500GB SSD, I have a dedicated current projects assets drive, also 500GB SSD, a dedicated current projects render output drive, 500GB, and a 250GB dedicated cache drive for my Creative Cloud apps only. Plus a 1TB 7200 HDD and a 4TB WD external for slow, and slower bulk storage.
Right now my workload isn’t producing the kinds of read/write cycles that yours is but I have still had to empty my assets and output drives of older projects and put them in the external a couple times from hitting disk capacity. So my use is probably a bit higher than the average user.
– Chris
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Fantastic reply, I don’t think I could’ve asked for anything more.
When I was running 16GB I was absolutely having more issues than I am now, I had one render that as you said in your first paragraph, just wouldn’t render. It kept shutting down Media Encoder hard every time I tried. I ended up having to shut off all the other apps, and shut the computer down, and then I finally got it to render.
Even then it took 20 hours to finish, it was a 60 second clip. This was the point where I discovered rendering project comps/pre-comps individually with an alpha channel whenever possible instead of building a massive composition with a million pre–comps and layers upon layers of stacked up effects. Obviously in some cases you’ll need a few pre-comps to be able to interact together under an adjustment layer or something. But I found that most times I can just render out things on their own and then build the final composition out of a bunch of clips with alpha channels.
Worth noting that clip I referred to was 3976×2840, I also try to keep everything I do in the realm of 1080p these days.
Now it just boils down to the Z390 or the X299 chipset and how 128GB (4x32GB) compares to 128GB (8x16GB). On the surface it looks (to my inexperienced mind) that combining the faster rendering capability of the 19-9900k with 128GB would be ideal, but does spreading the RAM out amongst 8 slots make the X299 configuration more ideal for AE and other motion graphics purposes?
– Chris
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Right after posting that I played with it a little, the resulting ProRes444 plus alpha was half the size of the Lossless + Alpha AVI that AE spits out so I’ll call that a win at the very least. That alpha channel sure is pretty massive for something that “isn’t there”.
Thanks for the help
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Ok, so how about H.264? Will AME render a clip with an alpha channel using H.264?