[Carsten Orlt]

Aindreas,

Not sure what you are actually trying to achieve with these posts? I read the original post and it lacks very little detail about the specify hardware used or which codecs are in play? To take this as a negative example to point out how this might be a fundamentally serious problem is far fetched to say the least.

If your interest would actually be to understand more about the software and possible best setups because you don’t have the means or time to test it yourself than I would understand your many post of same nature lately. But your language reveals quite openly that you are basically using a lot of words to say: see I told you it is crap.. Very thin ground if you are using others to prove your point without actually testing it yourself.

I for instance get really nice performance out of my early 2008 with 16 GB RAM and I only updated my GPU to a ATI 5770. I have Raid 0 Esata drives connected to a Sonnet EP4 card. I use either Sony XDcam or Canon XF codec and edit in 1080p25 all the time. I actually have background render on because the render is now so fast after FCPx started to use all cores that making myself a cupa is time enough to get my fx rendered since the last time I made a cup (nothing I ever tried using FCP7). Yes newer machines might be faster and sure a Pegasus thunderbolt would be nice, but to edit you don’t need either!

And if it might lack slightly in speed I think this is really a very minor point because if we are honest speed these days is way beyond what we actually need unless you are more a FX artist than an editor. For me the argument that you might be editing quicker with FCPx is completely irrelevant because I don’t edit to win a race. I want to be sure that I get the best possible edit from my material. The real advantage that FCPx gives me is that I actually have to think less about the mechanics than about the content I’m creating. This is the real revolution. Yes it takes a moment to get past the mechanics when you come from FCP7, Premiere or Avid, but the goal justifies the effort. Just yesterday I helped a friend with some ‘mechanics’ in FCP7 and I can’t tell you how much I’m happy that I do not have to deal with tracks anymore. The freedom from dealing with the mechanics when working with tracks compared to the pain of developing a new way of solving editing questions is totally neglect-able.

And on the same machine I had way less realtime performance with FCP 7 than I have now with x. The only thing that takes longer is working with thumbnails. But I didn’t actually work with them in FCP7 because they were useless than. Now they are super helpful and I learn everyday strategies how to best use the software to not get bogged down by FCPx having to load thousands of thumbnails. I don’t think neither Premiere nor Avid actually make the same extensive use of them and therefor maybe don’t have the problem of needing time to pre-load them. But boy do I love looking at my footage visually rather than by description, because that was the only way we had before.

But of course if nobody pays you for using it you don’t need to learn it. And of course you can try to keep finding flaws by reading third persons accounts. But I like to test myself before I would go on the Premiere bashing agenda and say how awfully bad this software is written by just looking at the post about project management. Because it might just be that somebody has a special config that causes trouble and a lot of people don’t have the same problem.

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

Sorry I just updated FCP and now it shows Canon XF codec all they way through.

I could swear it was Apple XDcam at least at some stage….

Sorry for the confusion 🙂

Happy Editng

[Carsten Orlt]

I agree with Jeremy I wouldn’t apply a LUT.

We are actually in the middle of a longer project shot on. C300 by different DP’s and sometimes using Canon Log and sometimes not. Not applying a LUT hasn’t been a problem for the editorial as Canon Log is kind of ‘mild’ and doesn’t distract visually from the content when editing.

I don’t even transcode to ProRes but just import the Canon files straight into FCP which just wraps them into Apple XDcam codec (at least that’s what FCP says they are after import). I haven’t done any CC yet, but tested the workflow and these files open in Resolve Lite just fine.

Best approach to grade Canon Log for me is to start with the Log type adjustments in Resolve. This way I get really nice dynamic control. Once the levels are right I switch to the normal 3 colour wheels and finalise the look.

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

I’m on a 1 year project for 6 month now.

Here’s is how I approach things. (We shoot tapeless)

I tag every clip as if I would archive it and prepare for online searches. Same as if you would go to a stock library and look for cats in town A at sunset.

After I have done this I favourite select ranges within the clips of action I like. Basically the same as making a select reel in the old days. I also use the ‘reject’ range to mark clips which I think are unusable. Using both you can very nicely filter your clip view by ‘hide reject’ or ‘show favourites’.
I also create a keyword +++ which I use to range mark sections I definitely need/want to use

I approach the edit starting by doing each event separately using Event Manager (must buy software until Apple builds it in) to show and hide what I need.
Each edit for a given event goes into a project with the same name (versions are named v1 to whatever) which I can group into folder if I have more than one edit per event.

In the end I will open all events and projects together and combine the lot.

So far this method kept performance at a nice level as I don’t have everything open all the time. FCPx slows down with the increase of amount of clips being online. I also have my footage ready for archive later because it is already tagged in a way which will make it usable in other films. I also will be able to sift through the final master and highlight all e.g. 720p or whatever (because they need a different post pass) shots because I tagged them thoroughly before I started editing. Might be boring up front but I know that I will love myself when it comes to the end 🙂

One important thing to remember: Nothing is fixed! You can change any keyword, any range, anything all the time. Only thing to remember is that any update at event level doesn’t ripple through for a specific clip once that clip is placed into a project. This is how it should be because if a clip is used in several projects you might not want the change to appear in all of them. But I wish that Apple would think about options to talk backwards under user control 🙂

Happy editing.

[Carsten Orlt]

But you haven’t specified your source yet 🙂

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

A lot of great analysis Clint. I only wonder were you get your data from to back up your findings?

I hope not from just reading the posts of maybe 20 (I have not counted) people regularly posting here…

I have no idea what the rest of the world is doing, if they are switching, adapting, learning, doing the same thing as before?

I only see some passionate geeks having fun and finding even more creative ways to justify their passion to spent way to much time here. And that includes me :-))

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

Hi Dan,

Very strange because I just tried it myself and it works just fine here? FCPx 10.0.7 and OSX 10.8.3.

Keyframe B, C and D set to ‘Linear’

No idea why it doesn’t work at your end.

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

And kill Premiere..Oh my god the evil empire is taking over the world. Avid next?

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

Brynn over at NoFilmSchool posted the catch 22 on this announcement:

The fact that users will have to create a vimeo account to become customers is a shame, although understandable from a technical perspective of course.
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I think one of the biggest challenges as a distributor these days is being able to meet people where they’re at – and for the most part, they are not on vimeo. At least, not the people who would be buying my films. Of course you can “take it to them” since all you have to do is post a link on Facebook or the like, but we all know that the more hoops people have to jump through (like creating new accounts they don’t really want), the less likely they are going to buy your product.

Early days.

Happy editing

[Carsten Orlt]

No worries, didn’t see you earlier posts.

But how do you determine where your video or audio clip go when you put them into the timeline? Do you have to move them after you put them on standard V1 A1-2?

Cheers

Happy editing