Bryson Jones
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Cool, keep us posted as to what you find. They are very different platforms in almost every way.
bryson
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Other than annoyance and weird characters, no. But we have found that people with file-names_that_work-like.this.in-their-houses tend to have silly characters too. like
billy's/best"movie.movFile and folder naming conventions are a huge thing and should be addressed before any MAM is installed as they can impact you greatly later on. Remember, once you have a MAM, there’s little reason for some huge file name.
Enterprise DAM systems often strip off the user’s filename totally and give you a guid like 6543345GG34.mov . Don’t tell your users, they’ll lose their minds knowing that a million dollar DAM does what it pleases. 😉
bryson
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I think you may have found a bug in the authentication of v3. I’d be surprised if, with all of the development in the last year on Worker, if V3 was still fully functional with the new version of Server.
I’m sure Squarebox will weigh in, but here’s a thought for you based on some work we did.
If you are going to run that G5 24/7 just to do Worker, then you could pay for a new mini quickly just on power consumption alone. G5’s were power hogs and use about 9 times the electricity of a mini.
G5 24/7 for a year = $600
Mini 24/7 for a year = $85
Just something to think about when upgrading.
bryson
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Nigel, I stand corrected, you are right about ALE, but from what I know you can’t vary what CatDV sends in an ALE. (I do need to dig around a bit.)
Avid workflows are going to require a whole new skill set for integrators as the app has been so FCP focused. I’ll do my best to keep this forum updated as we enter into our first paid engagements with Pegasus. (We have 2 on deck now but no deals have been signed.)
One thing to remember, if you can get the data you need into any text format there’s a ton you can do with text. We’re working on a delivery report for a client right now which basically combines 2 text outputs of the same clip(FCP XML and an Avid ALE) to get a .csv with the correct data needed.
Multi channel audio is tough. So many apps struggle with remapping and correctly managing it.
bryson
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Web Clients are concurrent meaning that 100 people can have an account but if you only have 5 web “seats”, you can only have 5 people connect at one time.
CatDV Pro client licenses are licensed to the machine like FCP or Avid. You get 5 copies of CatDV Pro and those can live on 5 computers. They are not concurrent so the software should not be installed on more than 5 computers.
The Web Client can search, view proxy, (not hires) and can edit metadata and add markers. It is limited compared to the CatDV client which can ingest clips, handle all sorts of hires footage (including MXF) and manipulate files with moves and copies etc.
bryson
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Avid ALE is a bitter brew (Sorry, I couldn’t help it.)
From what I know, the Avid Log Exchange format is fixed. Download the Pegasus trial and you won’t need to mess with it as AAF can send something like 12 metadata fields.
bryson
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I can’t really speak to the overall config, but if it’s esata then I’m sure that’s fine if you don’t have a ton of files to deal move/copy.
Bandwidth is the main issue everywhere. We have a near hilarious/heartbreaking range of clients who have from 1Mb to the internet to 1Gb to the net and internal networks from 100Mb to 10Gb (One has 10Gb across LA!) But that has nothing to do with internal storage speeds, most anything should be able to beat “the internet”.
That said, you can host files pretty well for a few users on 5-10Mb (up) speed. Below that and you need patient clients.
The good news? CatDV doesn’t care if you spend $100 or $100,000 on storage.
bryson
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You’ve found a weird hole in things. The ClipID is generated from the file so the “guid” would be the same if imported multiple times. However, there are 2 instances of this clip in the system.
In CatDV you may only have one version of an individual clip. That is to say, you can create as many as you like, but the server treats them all differently and does not sync metadata changes. If you were to look into the SQL tables you’d see that there are other identifiers that are different. ClipID is one but it is not absolute.
Confusing, yes, but it is the nature of a system with the powerful client/server methodology of CatDV. If the system was more limited and only accessible through a browser for instance, you could block this easier.
bryson
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IMHO (and as they say, everyone has one) NAS systems are pretty slow. Especially if you’re moving files.
We tend to either recommend faster NAS systems or if you’re going to do scripting or automation on a box, use a server that can run a copy of Worker Node so that you are direct attached to the server storage.
That makes for a much higher transfer speed (SCSI, Fiber or even SATA as opposed to a network connection.) This part is not opinion, it’s simply fact that direct attached storage is faster than a gigabit network connection in almost every case.
Here’e the “opinion” part. My personal beef with NAS boxes is that if they break, you have to deal with the whole thing. If you have a storage subsystem attached to a server you can address one problem without messing with the other. (A raid can be temporarily attached to another server/computer to access the data. Alternately, you can replace the raid controller or chassis if you have storage problems as well. This is nothing more than my opinion and you may have great luck and reliability with NAS boxes but I’d rather get a mac or PC fixed than send my data all off to Buffalo or whoever. (Let’s not even mention the legal/security concerns of shipping drives with data on them to strangers.)
If speed is not an issue and you’re not automating a lot of file moves, then you can use whatever you like, but with a Mac Mini or tiny PC server costing less than $1000, it’s hard to justify a NAS even on price. And since we have to have some sort of server doing CatDV so there’s a perfect place to connect and share a raid.
There are always exceptions (security, redundancy, scale) but in a small deployment your CatDV server box makes a great alternative to a NAS and I’m sure your CatDV dealer could sell you any of a thousand storage solutions.
Hope this helps and of course these are generalizations and free advice. You may have a completely different workflow that would be far better served by a NAS.
Good luck out there,
bryson
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The field ID for ClipID is “CREF.” So something like
$g-${CREF}$ewould get you the name with the ClipID added to the end but before the file extension. (I havent tested that exact one, that’s only for example, but it should get you rolling.)
As always, test, test, test.
bryson
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