[Brianlaz]

[Bret Williams] “Sorry, if a clip started before the insertion point in FCP7, it didn’t Ripple down.”

Maybe we’re using different terminology?
I just opened FCP studio and did it. No matter how many tracks I have, when I do an insert edit, ALL clips move to the right, leaving the clip I inserted alone, with no overlap, no loss of sync anywhere…i.e. what I was asking for in my original question.

[Brianlaz]

Thank you for your reply.
The blade-all solution seems to be the best, and what another replier suggested. I’m not into futzing with the connection points every time I want to do this kind of an edit.
PS I’m putting a random pic in here to see if it can really be that easy.

Cheers!

Wowwwww that’s so cool! I followed the CC instructions which were very convoluted.
So for videos do people make gifs and do it the same way? I’ve seen a few, that seems handy.

[Brianlaz]

Thanks for your reply!

[Bret Williams] “In FCPX when you insert, all the clips connected past the insert point will ripple down as you like . Any clips connected before the insertion point will stay where they are. Worked the same in FCP7. “

I can’t say I agree with this…connection points happen automatically, whereas locking tracks is something the editor does. I almost never used it in 7 because that’s how losing sync was invited. So the default setup for me was that inserting something rippled ALL tracks, because not losing sync is–for me–a great default. It’s actually hard for me to think of a scenario where it’s desirable to insert any other way, where some tracks ripple and some don’t.

[Bret Williams] “The big problem with 7 or X is music. If your music is connected before the insert point, then everything after the insert is going to be out of sync with the music. But this is generally true of all NLEs. X, at least, has the ability to change the connection point so you can choose side of the edit is important or which side you’d prefer goo out of sync. “

Again, since in 7 inserting worked the way I like (all tracks ripple), I never found there to be a problem with losing sync with music. And holding down keys and clicking with a mouse on literally every track before I do an edit…crazy town. I can appreciate how connection points can be useful in other ways though I’m sure.

[Bret Williams] ” In FCPX, you can accomplish the same thing by choosing a single hot key combination right before you insert edit. Shift+cmd+B. That will split your timeline all the way through at the playhead. Hit insert after that and all will be perfectly in sync before and after your insert.”

This is money right here! It is a good, though imo clunky, solution that is basically what I was saying I do as a workaround (split each track) but you added the shift combo so I don’t have to split each track individually.
Thanks for that!
I know there’s a FCPX vs 7 debates forum so I will say no more!

[Brianlaz]

Thanks for your reply.
Are you saying in order to do what I would call a true insert, where everything after your insert point moves to the right, I have to go to every clip and adjust it’s connection point? This could take a full minute on a complicated project.
Also, I tried moving all connection points to after the insert point and it was still wonky.
Am I misunderstanding?

[Brianlaz]

Crap, in preview I could see my images, now that I have posted I don’t see them.
Is there a forum for how to post on the forum??
I followed CC’s instructions (I thought) for how to include a still.

[Brianlaz]

Ok here is an example, some tracks on top of each other, a few tracks of video and a few tracks of audio (I think I’m not supposed to call them “tracks”?)

https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at7.08.51pm.png

When I take the blade tool and cut every “track”, then insert (W) I get what I want:

https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at6.58.15pm.png

Obviously having to cut each track individually is not tenable.

When I don’t cut every track with the blade tool I get this:

https://images.creativecow.net/80694/screenshot2018-11-17at6.59.34pm.png

I adjusted where the tracks were connected to the primary storyline (another thing there’s no way I’m willing to do every time), this does not produce the desired result.

Does this help? Is there a way to insert a clip and have everything get cut at that point and move over?

[Brianlaz]

Thank you for your response, I will upload a pic (or video if possible).

I am definitely in the regular select tool mode (A)

[Brianlaz]

“Brown” comes before “Smith”. But what if Brown lives in Texas and Smith lives in Alabama — maybe sorting by state is the most important.”

I LOVE this part of FCPX. You’re absolutely right, in 7 you would have to either choose one way to organize or duplicate clips which was a nightmare.

Just wanted to mention that.

[Brianlaz]

Thank you for your response!

“I don’t see it as “gone from the event viewer”: when I do SHFT+F and then switch to another project, the previous clip is still marked as a range with a thin yellow box around it. However it’s not positionally locked in place in the event browser.”

For me it is literally gone from the viewer, and it sounded like Noah was confirming this is how it works. Do you mean the range mark is still there once you find the clip again? Or that the clip is still in the viewer?

“Favoriting a clip is one key, keywording is one key combination if the keyword HUD is up (see MacBreak Studio 223, “Warp Speed Keywording”), and adding a marker is one key – “m”. For the marker case you’d have to create a one-time Smart Collection where text includes “marker”.”

Like I said in the OP, I get that there are always work arounds. I can see that I can use keywords to create a kind of holding pen for clips I’d like to find again quickly. I know how to favorite clips, I still have to go looking for it in a smart collection or keyword collection instead of it just staying where it is.

“I agree it can be a learning experience to think of data in relational terms instead of navigationally.”

I’m fine with the relational data! I think my question is simpler than that, and yet unanswered.

Question: Is there any benefit at all to this “new way” (event viewer goes black when you so much as click on a smart collection)? Why would anyone need that? Or for the project they open to appear in both viewers and lose the clip? I.e. am I just being blind to the payoff that this loss creates?

The only thing I can think of is that this way you can browse through other projects without losing (viewer-wise) the one you were working on, but you could do that in 7 as well.

P.s. I glaze over when I hear about FCPx workarounds to perform what 7 did with one stroke. I KNOW FCPX is powerful in many ways. I dig FCPx more and more and 7 can’t compare, but sometimes I just want to know, is this real, can I really not do this in one stroke.

[Brianlaz]

“I see what you mean but it’s not a specific way the app was designed to work. If I had to work that way I would just copy/paste and trim in the timeline. ”

This only works if it’s the same part of the clip you’re going to use. What if it’s a totally different part? I suppose you can copy, find new project, paste, match frame again, delete clip from timeline and then you have the clip back in the viewer.

In your opinion is there something beneficial about the way the event viewer works in FCPX?