[Brendan Quaife]

..and even further…

When accessing the Ki-Pro’s on the web interface “Clips Page”, they are showing as 25fps.

Yet the counter still counts from 00-29.

[Brendan Quaife]

..and in further

Just had the same results on a 1080i50 clip – the Ki Pros are counting these frames from 00 to 29 as well.

Starting to feel to me that perhaps the pal/50i world has a few issues when using exported clips.

[Brendan Quaife]

Hi there

I’ve been working with Mark on trying to identify where this issue is happening.

We have 2 ki-pro’s in front of us.

I can confirm that the output settings from FCP are correct, with us even forcing the time code to 25FPS (even tho the source material is still PAL 25FPS). I’ve embedded an image below of the export settings just to show what the output settings are.

After the export process – the clip plays fine on both machines. Video and Audio looks good.

However BOTH machines count the time code from 00 to 29 frames in each second.

When this exported clip is a) bought back in to FCP or b) loaded in Quicktime pro and the “Movie Inspector” window is bought up – they both clearly show that the clip is 25 FPS.

Also when the clip is dubbed to the other Ki-Pro … it’s seeing it as PAL, and the recorder unit is adhering to PAL 25FPS.

We haven’t tried exporting for HD as yet. Will give that a go and see if anything similar crops up with something like 1080i50.

Hoping to shed some light on this – and just maybe we have found a small wee glitch.

Regards

Brendan

[Brendan Quaife]

HI Jason

I had the same thing when we were preparing for a live to air broadcast last week. We were using one of the Ki-Pros as playback deck.

It seems they are ultra fussy when it comes to audio.

I found this answer somewhere else in this forum (I think).

You have to export the clip.

File–Export Using Quicktime conversion.

Select Pro-Res as your video codec. Select your clip size (this is important).

Under Audio settings, select 24bit and here is the biggest thing. CHECK the ‘little endian’ box.

For some reason this endian thing is not available in FCP’s timeline and that seems to be what the Ki Pro needs.

Hope that helps

Brendan

[Brendan Quaife]

further to your question about networks rejecting material…

I have seen a network reject a programme as they detected a “low bit rate” shot. Ie, some tecchie geek actually claims he could see the compression break down on a fastly panned shot.

This is where higher data rates win – the compression has a better chance when you throw faster data rates in to shots that have faster motion.

So my recording at 50mbps on an external box – you give your shot just that but more of a chance of holding up when there is lots of change happening.

[Brendan Quaife]

Have you looked in to the Ki-Pro mini that AJA have just released?

Cons: it sits firmly in the pro-res world
Pros: It’s a 10 bit format as opposed to Convergent’s 8-bit.

For those in the post world – those extra 2 bits are priceless!