Bram Desmet
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Two things:
1. Turn the brightness knob on the monitor clockwise and see if as you increase the brightness the pluge bar shows up. If it is not there at all (which turning the brightness up would reveal) then you have an issue with your source. Press down on the brightness rotary knob to set it back to default.
2. The peak white luminance level on a broadcast monitor is typically much, much darker than a computer display. The broadcast standard peak white luminance and how a computer monitor are setup are worlds apart (one is meant to be used in darker edit suite, the other in brighter office environments competing with ambient light).
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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The LM-1760W and LM-2461W do share virtually identical feature sets as they use the same core processing chip. However, there are some significant differences worth noting:
1. The LM-1760W is only 1366×768 resolution whereas the LM-2461W is native 1920×1200 resolution.
2. The LM-1760W basically has a native Rec 709 color gamut. The LM-2461W has a much wider native color gamut and is therefore equipped with our CFE (Color Fidelity Engine) board, which is basically a 3D LUT board allowing the monitor to instantly switch between Rec 709, EBU, SMPTE, DCI P3, and native wide gamut modes. Because the LM-2461W is precisely carving out its operating color spaces you get the greatest accuracy with that unit.
3. Both the LM-1760W and LM-2461W can process 10 bit video signals, but the LM-2461W is native 10 bit whereas the LM-2461W is native 10 bit (16.7 Million Colors vs. 1.073 Billion Colors).
4. The LM-2461W has better off-axis viewing, better black levels, and higher overall contrast thanks to its newer H-IPS panel technology vs. the S-IPS panel technology found on the LM-1760W.Both are great monitors, but for any sort of high-end color correction or other very color critical workflows we recommend the LM-2461W.
Another thing to consider is that if you do not have the budget for an LM-2461W then the new LM-2140W (21.5″) monitor would actually be a better choice for you than the LM-1760W. These units are the same price, but the LM-2140W gives you more for your money (native 1920×1080, 3Gbps SDI, larger screen, lower power consumption, lighter weight, etc.).
You may want to give us a call directly or shoot us an email if you want more of a detailed ‘sales pitch’…I try my best to avoid that on informational forums like this though I’m happy to answer any specific questions as forum users see fit.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Flanders Scientific is at booth 10.F22 at IBC. You can get your hands on an FSI monitor whenever you like, we ship directly to customers in over 140 countries around the world. We will also most likely have someone in Amsterdam several days before the show doing demos in the Benelux area if you prefer to have someone come do a more in depth demo outside of the normally quite busy trade show environment.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Hi JB, typically you have to pay taxes whether you buy locally or from us and even with customs and shipping added in I think most people would agree that our product is quite competitively priced for a wide gamut 10 bit monitor with standard 3Gbps SDI inputs.
FSI has no plans to add reps anywhere at this point because we still have the capacity to and prefer to offer support and assistance directly. Adding a local rep in your country would NOT make the unit cost less. Our list pricing was set without the normal addition of extra padding for dealer margin because we wanted to build a direct to end user business model from the very beginning. Quite to the contrary it would likely increase the cost because we would have to raise our prices to include dealer margin and remember that such a dealer would still be responsible for shipping and customs charges.
Anyway, this is no place for a hard sell on our part and that is not our style anyway, but I would encourage you to price out your ‘landed cost’ for your local options vs our units (https://www.ShopFSI.com has shipping costs) and compare features with your other options to see how things really stack up.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Hi Shane, that used to be the case with the LM-2450W, but the LM-2461W does not use the same panel as TVLogic. Our unit, at just $4,995, is wide gamut (102% NTSC) and has a 10 bit color depth (1.073 Billion Colors).
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Hi JB, just FYI Flanders Scientific ships direct to customers worldwide in over 140 different countries, including Finland, so if you do decide to get the FSI LM-2461W you can get the unit easily and quickly.
Keep in mind that for $4,995 (LM-2461W) you get a unit that is 10 bit and has 12 different scope modes, something worth considering when comparing to other units in this same price range. At any rate I am obviously not the most objective source for comparison information, but if you do have any questions for us at all feel free to contact us directly and we will be happy to answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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FYI, FSI added 3Gbps Level B Overlay support in Mid-May of this year so you can now monitor 4:4:4 via 3Gbps Level B as well as 3Gbps Level A. I post this here now because we still have some people referencing this thread when they contact us because they are concerned that the LM-2461W would not support 4:4:4 signals in this configuration. Rest assured that it will and we have many customers using it successfully in precisely this configuration.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Hi Greg, please note that one playback offset value will not work for all formats. The video processing delay of most LCD monitors that sync to the native vertical frame rate of the source is a function of the number of frames/fields per second. What this means is that in higher frame rate material the video processing delay is shorter (in ms) vs lower frame rate material. Basically this results in exactly what you were seeing: in your 60 frame material (720p60 in your example) you will have the lowest processing delay, followed by your 24psf material (keep in mind this is fed to the monitor as 48 fields), and then lastly your 24p material. The fewer frame/fields per second you have the longer the video latency vs audio in milliseconds. This is not a function of the monitor’s processing power, but rather just a function of the frame rate of the source.
What this all means is that if using a standalone line delay or playback offset you will need to adjust those values based on the processing mode the monitor is in (fast, normal, or noise reduction) and the frame rate of the incoming source.
As mentioned earlier when dealing with just two channels of audio (stereo) many people just use the audio out of the monitor because that automatically delays the audio by the exact amount of video processing delay, regardless of incoming frame rate or monitor processing mode.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
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Couple of tips on the monitoring side of the equation:
1. Make sure the video processing mode of the monitor is not set to noise reduction, this adds significant processing delay.
2. Many customers that just need to monitor stereo audio use the monitor’s built in disembediing capabilities because the monitor will automatically delay the disembedded audio by the exact amount of video processing time. Granted this is unbalanced audio on a mini-jack connector, but for smaller edit suite environments this can work well as an inexpensive way to ensure perfect audio sync.Again, this may be just a part of the equation because to my knowledge a lot of customers use the playback offset feature to achieve proper sync as well.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com -
Keep in mind that Payload ID is not generated/passed/read by some I/O and converter interfaces. If any equipment along the line is not passing Payload ID you may require manual settings so that all the equipment in the line knows to look for the appropriate format (4:4:4 or 4:2:2, YCbCr or RGB). Your indication that everything has a purple cast is why I’m fairly confident this is the issue. 4:4:4 RGB fed to something expecting 4:2:2 YCbCr typically results in a severe purple cast to the image. Without Payload ID present it would be difficult for the receiving equipment to know whether the signal is YCbCr or RGB.
Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com