Bill Davis
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[Andrew Kimery] “By that I mean, my YouTube, Vimeo and Frame.io accounts aren’t interlinked and interchangeable. “
Check again.
Frame.io and Vimeo Pro appear to be co-located and linked.
That’s based on my current workflow where I can mirror from FiO to VimPro with a single click and the file appears instantly.
The only delay is when the flag hits to Vimeo to further process the server version already in storage – their side kicks in to do additional transcodes since those files will face clients and viewers who need differing versions that FiO doesn’t need to function.
That’s my point.
Producer exports a reference file. The distribution services handles the individual customer needs.
This is what we’ve done in the commercials area for a years now. Master to Extreme Reach or equivalent – they do the rest.
That model will win in the long run for everything distributed, IMO.
Time will tell.
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[Andrew Kimery] “If one is delivering to Hulu or Amazon or Netflix or HBO or Vudu or NBC or Discovery or Snapchat or a DCP, etc., then just using any old file won’t suffice because these companies handle and deliver their own content internally (or via their own sub-contractors). One delivers a master file(s) to their specs and then they do all the transcodes to make all the different versions they need.”
Yep.
Excellent description of the problem.Multiple organizations all doing basically the same thing in different ways “because that’s the way we’ve traditionally done it.”
I’m just asking WHY. What’s the point?
Again, this driven by my learning 15 years ago that the production guys at the local network affiliate weren’t following their OWN submission standards – because it was unnecessary and inefficient.
They wanted their paying clients to complicate things they had simplified internally.
FWIW.
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[Shane Ross] “But only want ProRes.”
That was kinda my point, Shane.
The digital delivery services are kinda collapsing this into a non-issue.
The Frame.io or Vimeo Pro or Extreme Reach (or whatever) services should be handling this now.
Every one of them does an internal capture and serves out a variety of transcodes from low res-low bitrate to essentially uncompressed – depending only on the available Rez of the initial delivery upload.
It seems to me the need to even *think* about delivery codec is rapidly diminishing.
For me it’s gone away totally.
I’d expect that to spread to all levels of production pretty quickly simply because it’s work better suited to machine learning than human choice.
(Given this target playback – reencode this way – if enough resolution isn’t available – warn the client.)
Doesn’t seem that hard from where we are now.
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[Andrew Kimery] “Aside from already established media distribution companies (like cable companies) who’s super skittish about digital distribution platforms these days?”
Sorry. I thought that was the main point of Shane’s posted rant.
The difficulty of getting his deliverables out.
The way he described it just seemed utterly foreign to my experiences these days and it seemed strange.
Must have mistaken his text.
(This specifically: Lately I’ve been delivering OP-1A MXF and it’s surprisingly simple, and low file size. 20GB for 46 min, 8 tracks of audio…very simple output. And yes, one network did relent and say they would take DNxHD as a deliverable, but I have four others who still insist on ProRes.)
That sounds like the nightmares I used to face and generated my post about my workflow. Which simply doesn’t involve that stuff any more. That’s all.
Sorry.
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Oh gosh this thread is so painful to read.
Such a reminder of the years and years I spent calling Master Control’s and trying to interpret between the “deliverables spec sheets” that various Media Sales Teams delivered to me and what the ACTUAL people at the stations really needed in order to get my stuff on the air properly.
It schooled me to believe that the difference between what is ACTUALLY required – and what asked for – is so often VERY different, just because people find it so hard to evolve and change as technology changes.
I just delivered one of my 4 end-of-the-year pieces – yesterday at 4pm.
It’s due Saturday, but as usual, I’m done days early, thanks (in my opinion) to X.
It was behind a password on Frame.io for the approval loop. When the Agency head marked it as APPROVED I got emailed. I went on my phone and made one menu choice – and it was instantly mirrored From FiO to our Vimeo Pro Master File playout account – and within 30 seconds therefore available for pull distribution to any client stakeholder – at any resolution necessary – from SD to 2k – anywhere in the World.
“Delivery” for me now takes less than ONE second and requires ONE menu selection.
And via Roles and FCP X, that same trigger could have cued FCP X to generate 25 mix minus versions, various station tagged files or alt splits just as easily.I understand that others work in environments where people are SUPER skittish about the new disruptive digital distribution platforms. And I can also see how large operations might worry about how they can maintain security and professionalism across a system where a guy like me in Arizona can feed Hi-Def content to the whole planet in a second.
But Thanksgiving was last week, but I’m still VERY thankful this stuff has changed so much for me.
Life was SO MUCH more needlessly complex in the days my deliverables we’re ruled by those aweful TV Station delivery standards sheets – (the ones that were usually out of date two weeks after they were typed up!)
FWIW.
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THIS is why many of us recommend against doing organizational work in the finder rather than just allowing the database in X to track the locations of assets as it was designed.
As MacOS continues to evolve with more virtualization, more security, more network interconnections, this “where’s the file” game is going to get harder and harder to manage manually.
I certainly understand the allure of the old “folder culture.” and spent decades in it as well – but after 6 years of X, (and as a non-networked editor) I literally am down to ONE root desktop level folder per Library as a container to house all my imported graphics and similar digital assets.
Then as long as I scrupulously download to – import from – THERE – I can just let X manage ALL the location arrangements.
If I need to go back and recover projects off deep storage – dragging that one folder back onto the desktop (root) fixes ALL the database location links automatically.
The ability to essentially ignore finder locations has been a HUGE time saver for me.
And even better, if after the project it put to bed – I can make that folder part of an archive Disk Bundle that also contains the Library – then recovery is a one launch operation, always.
This won’t work for the large project folk on shared storage – but if you work projects at the desktop level – it’s foolproof easy.
My 2 cents.
YMMV.
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The very phrase “reality show” is the most egregious oxymoron of this era.
If it’s a show – it ain’t reality. Period.
These are extremely curated, custom designed and assembled piece of media – purpose designed to attract eyeballs – and sell them either directly to the public or to advertisers.
Distilling the boredom of ACTUAL REALITY into something that will efficiently attract enough eyeballs to be useful in making enough money to sustain the effort – is BRUTALLY hard work.
And as others have noted here far better than I ever can – the people who make “reality tv” are in it for one primary purpose – making MONEY. Full stop. People who make money as their primary goal necessarily balance income vs expenses ruthlessly. An editor is an expense. Period. Full stop. Know that going in.
To expect them to behave in ANY fashion other than maximizing profit by any means possible is to misunderstand how modern money-making works.
They will pay you as LITTLE as possible – for as MUCH work as possible – every – single – time.
The smartest bosses, IF they find you can be exceptionally useful in productivity or skill – will likely pay you enough so you don’t run off with your experience and require them to replace you – but there are PLENTY of producers who don’t care about turnover – and simply want as much effort for as few dollars as possible. If YOU don’t want to do the scut work – they understand somebody in NewDelhi probably WILL.
This looks bleak – but in fact, it represents a push for you to understand one thing. The ONLY thing that will allow you to earn more than anyone else pushing the buttons – is your reputation. That means you can’t be “as good” as the next editor. You need to be objectively BETTER at some aspect of production that it needed by the market place.
ONE way to get better is by rote learning. So sucking it up and working stupid hard for little money CAN drive you into advancing farther than your competitors.
But…
(And this is a big deal, IMO)
If you aren’t constantly confronting new and unique challenges EVERY GIG you are losing ground. Basically, if you’re being paid crap wages to stretch and grow – that’s ONE thing. But if you are being paid crap wages to just crank out the SAME crap week after week, month after month – that should be a GIANT flashing red light and ear piercing siren.
RUN from that.
My 2 cents.
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[greg janza] “the web is now doing active battle against the adblockers. “
No question this is the era of battle for the soul of the internet.
The number, size, restrictions and annoyance of the “culture of billboards” adjacent to the information superhighways -will have a major impact on our lives.
Whether the internet will remain more like the Pacific Coast Highway – a nice drive accessible to anyone equally – or the ad-awash Las Vegas Strip – or a prettier, but privatized toll road – is something facing a HUGE challenge this very month.
Fingers crossed and congressional snail/email addresses at the ready!
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[Tim Wilson] ”
I hope you’re whitelisting us! ????For the record, the only thing we do with cookies is allow you to set your site preferences. We don’t set any other cookies of our own, do no other tracking, and share data with nobody.”
My experience with the Cow, confirmed this.
During my site use, there are only 3 bots Ghostery shows – Google Analytics, Quantcast, and TypeKit by Adobe. – all three of which it gives me the option to block or not – without any impediment to site use. So this place has an impressive user tracking “clean” bill of health, IMO.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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Not specifically related to Adobe – but I remember years ago installing Ghostery off the Apple Safari Plug-ins site and being totally shocked at the sheer number of bots and trackers it was blocking as I navigated the ‘net.
Make no mistake, on the internet – YOU are the product.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.