Bill Davis
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Well, maybe, Mitch.
But that’s precisely why I have difficulty warming up to the RED approach.
They talked, and talked, and talked and talked about what was going to happen. Then when it finally did, it was NOTHING like they implied. They delivered a great product for the top of the industry. But every bit of marketing hype I remember was talking about a $10k camera. Not the $50k plus “system” they eventually delivered in fits and spurts.
I’ve probably just seen too many companies over too many years try to suppress migration or hold the market in suspense while they worked things out – only to have them miss countless deadlines.
That”s not a slam on RED or on ADOBE. Just how I experienced waiting long stretches hoping that a tool I was interested in might become available.
In fairness, Adobe, in particular, does NOT have that kind of history. They’ve always delivered and supported fine software.
I just still think they’re missing the larger trend of where content creation is increasingly going – and that’s more in line with where Apple is betting.
But I could certainly be wrong.
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In my quote I was addressing BOTH notes – audio echo and camera shake.
I mis-typed rubadub re one when I intened to apply it to the other.
I watched BOTH videos. And as I noted, I’ll be delighted if they can handle one or both with practical solutions
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Why can’t you just select the original clip, clone it with “new compound clip” – detach the audio from that and if you need to “re-attach it” just replace the un-synced one with the original?
Haven’t tried it, but it seems pretty trivial to me.
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[Herb Sevush] “Multi-Cam essentials
1) The ability to create a multi-clip with a minimum of 25 angles, no limit would be better. “
Wow.
I’m gonna argue directly against this idea. I don’t want to turn my laptop into your idea of a multi-cam monster. At ALL.
To me, 25 angles is at LEAST 17 too many. – at least until Thunderbolt fully implements the all optical roadmap.
Anyway, I personally I don’t want the dev team to spend a minute coding in stuff that only a tiny fraction of the users will ever really need.
Maybe at some distant future point, we’ll have some kind of UBER-WiFi that lets some kid sit at their laptop and grab 25 plus real-time feeds from the cel phones surrounding a BMX race, but I’m not holding my breath for that.
Again, it’s clear that while FCP-X will grow and evolve and nobody knows how far – if they wanted to write something that does what OLD FCP used to do – only more and better – they were perfectly capable of doing precisely that. They’d already done it. (Multiple times’ in Randy’s case!)
Herb, this will NEVER be the monolithic “everything for everyone” software you are so clearly still pining for.
They are on a different path. You might as well be asking them to code in all the capabilities of a GV Keyenne as well, but NEITHER of those things are likely to happen. Period.
It’s starting to sound like I’m listening to a parent for whom it doesn’t matter how decent and accomplished the kid the daughter brings home might be – that kid will never, ever, EVER be “good enough.”
Just sayin’
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Not to hijack the thread, but the larger problem I’m seeing is an increasing number of clients who want me to produce work for them – but then they want to take delivery of my TIMELINE files as a part of their project deliverables.
That scares me a lot more than widely distributing intact copies of a finished work.
I don’t want to have them either hack up my work, or worst yet, go to school on my efforts and take over all the subsequent downstream work based on my original creative work.
Sigh.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Herb Sevush] ” As for the Photoshop fix blur feature, if they can do it in Photoshop they will be able to do it with video. The 2 things I most often get asked to do by clients that I can’t do is
1) make this shot less blurry and
2) get rid of the echo in the sound. “In my experience, when they say 1 above they’re usually not talking about camera shake, which rubadub addresses, but focus issues, which would be FANTASTIC, if they could fix, but I suspect not. Taking a defocused image and re-focusing is a whole lot different from taking camera shake and removing the ghosts. But we’ll see. I wish them well and hope they pull this off.
As to 2 I share your wish completely. In my experience, it’s usually horrible mic technique and trying to fix it is akin to taking a can of yellow paint and subsequently attempting to extract the blue and green components. But the laws of physics being what they are, if the Adobe folks can figure out how to fix or even just significantly improve what most people describe as “echo” in field recordings (actually more often, I suspect, poor signal-to-noise ratio from distant micing), I’ll be the first to leap to my feet and applaud them.
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Yeah, I wondered about that.
Still, I can’t get the idea of connected clips as small self-contained content modules out of my head.
Probably should just take a nap and hope it all goes away.
Sigh.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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FCP-X is constructed around a relational database that’s purpose driven to locate, extract, manipulate and display digital data related to video editing in a very flexible fashion.
So to enable EVERYTHING you’re asking for is simply a matter of code calls and interface construction choices.
That’s doesn’t say anything about if, or when, or especially HOW the software designers will implement the specific ways they arrange the access to and display of that data. Personally I “hope” they do something radical with it, because I LIKE the fact that they were willing to tear down the walls to construct an alternative to the way things have “traditonally” been done – but that’s just me!
Still, the whole point of the re-write of FCP-X was to make raw data accessibility and manipulation easier at the most fundamental level of the program. So that should bode well for future capabilities – including multi-cam.
We’ll know soon enough.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Darren,
Sorry, but you are absolutely incorrect with your assertion that FCP-X represents something that “Apple is still trying to make function.”
It’s a perfectly well-functioning editing platform right now.
I’ve delivered two projects out of it in the past 72 hours. One “sizzle video” for a national corporate conference – and a donor education initiative for a SoCal regional blood bank.
I’ve found it agile, creative, useful, and while not flawless, it’s code is amazingly “self correcting” in that while I crashed it a few times it consistently re-opened rapidly and near flawlessly without a single dropped edit decision. (In fairness, I say “near flawlessly, because occasionally I’d find an odd type treatment re-set to a default style, but nothing that took more than a minute to correct)
It clearly is not the perfect tool for every editor. But to imply that it doesn’t function shows that you’re either reading about it too much and using it too little, or there’s something wrong with your configuration or machine capabilities.
Period.
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Then it should be a good choice for you.
Particularly if you’re currently doing, (or for some, aspire to do) high-end hollywood style movie making. Based on the “feature sneak” posted elsewhere in this forum from Adobe – they have their sights firmly fixed on the top end of the editing spectrum and are hard at work to cram more and better niche workflows in the time intensive processes like ADR, Effects compositing, and even odd stuff like fixing blurry photos ruined by unstable camera work!
(I’ve always thought that just pulling out a tripod largely fixes that in advance, but I appreciate that someone like a war correspondent can’t do that – so bravo to Adobe for looking for future ways to address it for those folks!)
Viva different strokes!
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor