Bill Davis
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Back at you.
Hope all is well. And hope you fill this with somebody AWESOME.
I’m moving to the west coast (San Diego) in about 3 weeks, so if you ever get out to LA, drop me a note and I’ll be happy to take the Coast Starliner up for lunch or coffee.
Take care.
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I actually probably should have titled this as “looking for an FCP X Guru…” to be more clear.
Still, Good luck if you want to go there. Probably a great gig for the right person.Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Thank goodness for people like Mike Figgis who are ready to think up ideas beyond the narrow parameters of what the world’s largest corporations think fit to spoon feed us.”
I think you misspelled Randy Ubillos?
(just teasing, of course.)
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[Oliver Peters] “Some are better than others, but none are correct.”
So if we can agree on that – then it stands to reason that you’d want the system that is the closest to correct on the widest number of expected consumer screens.
Unless I read it wrong, the post said pretty clearly that currently, the closest dependable match is work coming out of FCP X on a Mac P3 system and displayed on iPhones – since they conform to Color Sync – and, at least in the US, iOS devices are the most common displays.
That seems to be what Denver Riddle was saying, unless I read it wrong.
So, one less thing I have to spend too much time second guessing.
Cool.
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[Oliver Peters] “Other than magnetic timeline, can you honestly say that you see a lot of people who use X that actually make use of these functions? Or do they merely accept the defaults and slap stuff together in the timeline? I’d venture to say the latter is a far greater number among those that edit with X. I don’t believe roles and keywords sell X to anyone who is a new user.”
Wow. ABSOLUTELY and EVERY DAY.
Do you spend ANY time on the X oriented boards at all?
The VAST majority of questions in those boards, some of which have tens of thousands of users are at the EXACT SAME level you’d expect to find in any other software community.
Are there Noobs who don’t use all the aspects of the software? Sure. But you’ll find the exact same mix of people on the Premiere Pro and AVID boards. X has been growing for SEVEN YEARS – and it’s boards are RIFE with intelligent, informed discussions about EVERY SINGLE aspect of X use.
And in the multiple “Professional Use” X boards – there are thousands more participants who ONLY use X to make their livings and know and discuss the software at precisely the same level that people discuss AVID or any other NLE on boards oriented towards them.
This post really disappoints me about your perception of X, Oliver.
Imagine if I were to opine publicly, that only a small fraction of Premier Pro users do anything other than use it’s MOST basic functions. If I were to assert that most CC editors really don’t use Lumetri. Few really uses Audio functions on the timeline beyond the basics. And that editors using Premier Pro to do professional work are just somehow, an exception.
I suspect if I posted something like that about Premiere – I’d be met with derision and scorn. And rightly so. And sorry, but that you would frame this question in a similar manner is surprising.
At heart, I have NO idea of how many X users are fluent in Roles. And YOU don’t have any idea of what percentage of Premier Pro users know how to properly apply an audio Limiter.
Millions are provably relying on FCP X to make a buck. And I assume exactly the same for the Adobe Solutions.
I don’t think it’s necessary to cast that type of shade on either.
I’m disappointed in this post, Oliver.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “That’s what usually happens to brilliant people who get recruited by Apple. Their talents are immediately wasted on trivia.”
So you’re saying they are engaged in Trivial Pursuits?
Hey, WAIT – that crazy idea made a bunch of folks seriously RICH.
Maybe we’re ALL on the wrong side of this?
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[Oliver Peters] “Those next-gen people will shift to Resolve and HitFilm.”
Maybe,
But unless you can articulate how those better deal with what I see as the CENTRAL issue of our time – the explosion of available data to manage and the need to automate as much organization and assembly as possible – I’ll withhold my assessment.
I don’t see stuff like keywords, magnetic assembly, and Roles in those – ALL of which arguable address this central issue.
THOSE are the keys to X.
Not how it does what the others do – but free-er. ????
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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After I wrote my thoughts down above – I suddenly flashed on the (wait for it!) Fig Rig!
Remember that?
Two time Academy Award Wining director Mike Figis wanted to improve on camerawork, so he partnered with Manfrotto to offer a circular gizmo with the idea that it would improve ease of shooting in at least certain situations.
Kinda turned out fewer people than he likely imagined saw his solution as a huge advance.
Not saying a new quasi X-like Browser thingy bolted into other NLEs might not be the big improvement some might think it would be. But as an X editor, I will note that the REASON the Browser works so well in X is because it’s not a thing unto itself – it’s an ASPECT of a larger scheme that includes the entire RANGE ideas, Keywording, Magnetic Assembly – and more. All integrated into a wholistic thing.
Once upon a time, I was pretty interested in getting some time on a Fig Rig.
The opportunity passed. Oh well.
Just in a musing mood today.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I was wondering the same thing. Automatic Duck is awesome if you need to get shots/timings over to Ae. I use it a lot.
“Kinda makes you wonder what Wes Plate is doing now that he’s at Apple, doesn’t it?
I’ve chatted with him half a dozen times af Apple public functions over the last couple of years – and consistent with the expected Apple culture – he obviously never talks shop in a way that discloses anything. In fact, Wes has a great version of what I think of as “The Apple Engineer Generic Reveal Nothing Smile” that you get if you conversationally wander into dicy territory.
I’ve gotten used to it.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I can understand that this might not appeal to other editors but what’s interesting is that he’s looking at what NLEs could be from a different perspective.”
Hummm – where have I heard of something similar?
Oh yes. Pretty much precisely what Mr. Ubillos did seven years ago?
Well, we all know how THAT initially went. ????
The funny thing, is that Mr. Bell has at least one fully realized option that MIGHT provide him a path somewhat closer to a few of the things he’s apparently yearning for – yet he’s apparently managed, like so many, to largely ignore it to date. And of course, it might be 100% frustration and 0% joy if he did.
As busy as he must be – the time to get to that moment when the X system “clicks” for any editor – has been said over and over again to be inversely proportional to the level of that editors prior NLE experience. And so much of X’s strengths are the folding of typical AE tasks closer into the editorial process and the timeline itself – – and he’d have to both learn them (since they are so intertwined with the X experience) and then ignore much of them in order to get to the joys of magnetic assembly that might ease a significant tranch of his work.
For a while, I’ve been seriously thinking X’s future lies squarely in the generation coming up – rather than the generation currently sitting in the “big shop” seats. There will be exceptions, of course, but it requires someone who understands the return available in exchange for that mental adaptation.
Purely because it represents so much required re-learning – and returns too little immediate reward for editors who want to just bolt incremental changes into their comfortable workflows.
Asking for a company to slap a “Browser like” array into an AVID-style interface might be smarter for them than trying to get a long time editor to re-think their editorial flow thinking. And maybe AVID will go there. Good luck to them on walking that balance beam. I wish them well.
After all, Agility is NOT an aspect prized by any “establishment” group.
They tend to prize dependability and comfort.
Time will tell.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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