Bill Davis
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[Andrew Kimery] “The reviewer didn’t get it wrong, he just happened to get it right so fast that many people assumed he had to have gotten it wrong. The knee-jerk reaction to the reviewer is where Ready – Fire – Aim took place.”
Well, he got it PARTLY right.
Yes, there was throttling. But NOT because of any actual thermal danger. And his hurried “I’m first” review didn’t go far enough to establish the actual parameters of the issue. So that partial “me first” FIRE cry – in the presence of smoke – but not flames – is what essentially led to everyone else excoriating the new MacBook Pros as “Thermallly flawed” when in fact, they are not.
THIS is the danger of Ready, Fire, Aim.
It’ short circuits the exploratory process. Nobody gets to address the subtitles. Everyone picks sides – before enough information is available to choose those sides wisely.
And that’s not a very good environment for making valid judgments on the utility of tools.
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[Shane Ross] “No…I guy found a flaw in the processor, it was being throttled.”
NO. That is NOT why throttling was occurring, as I understand it from my reading.
There wasn’t a “flaw in the processor” at all. It was an unsigned snippet of code in a Power Management Unit totally separate from the processor.
As I understand it, the computer was NEVER overheating and running the fans to cool down an actually overheating issue. The fans and throttle state were being triggered due to a glitch in the self assessment feedback.NOT because dangerous overheating was ever actually occurring.
It’s like your care engine Overheat light is coming on. So you take it in, but it turns out the LIGHT was shorting. NOT that the car was actually overheating.
They change the light bulb – or fix the computer – and it stops signaling that there’s a problem where their actually isn’t. Because the flashing light is not the actual issue – engine danger is. And there wasn’t ever any actual engine danger in this case – at least as far as I can tell.
Your i9 is NOT going to overheat and fail prematurely (at least not anymore than ANY other similarly configured computer with the same components from ANY manufacturer might) because APPLE screwed up their design.
From what I’ve read, the slim new Apple MacBook Pro runs within EXACTLY the same thermal parameters that also arise from thicker and even RUGGED laptops from many other manufacturers sporting the same level of performance. It get no hotter, cools no less efficiently, and should fail and NOT fail at exactly the same rate as any of it’s competitors.
The observed throttling was a temporary symptom of a tiny code glitch – NOT bad computer thermal design.
That’s the nothing burger this particular “gate” turned out to be.
At least as I read things.
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[Oliver Peters] “doesn’t have a great track record when it comes to thermal design.”
Yeah, but from what I read, THAT was not the problem here.
After the patch that simply changes some embedded power unit code — the DESIGN of the unit appears to work precisely as it should.
So the problem wasn’t “thermal DESIGN” (as most people would understand that concept) at all. It was a small bug that temporarily prevented the computers to operate to spec – but one that was pretty easy to correct.
If it had been an ACTUAL design problem – the fix would have been to change the design.
But that’s not what happened here. They pushed a pure software fix – and the exact same hardware design works exactly as promised.
That’s a very different thing.
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[greg janza] “When we’re talking about products as expensive as the Apple line the buying public has a right to know about flaws or defects.”
Expensive?
Please.
$2600 (in 1990s dollars!) was the Betacam TAPE budget for a medium sized corporate shoot when I was learning the craft.
That you can spend the same amount in 2018 dollars and get a high powered computer in a 1″ slab of aluminum — iincluding a killer monitor and SSD storage — that can handle 4k footage with aplomb — is damn near MIRACULOUS.
We’re just stupidly spoiled in this era.
Todays default for far too many people is that it’s NEVER good enough, fast enough, cheap enough, or works well enough.And if it is — then that’s it’s even worse – because then EVERYBODY can buy it and push all the rates down.
THIS is a digital video GOLDEN AGE in nearly EVERY historical aspect – and yet all we can do is bitch, bitch, bitch that it’s still not golden or shiny ENOUGH.
It’s kinda embarrassing, really.
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We just have to accept that we now live in a Ready – Fire – Aim universe.
What matters most is being first. First to uncover the flaw. First to stake out the ground for your position.
The reward is clicks and clicks need to be accumulated when the VERY first eyeballs show up – because only then can you TREND. And TREND is everything.
Time to contemplate and try to understand the actual nature of the issue and whether or not the issue is going to be meaningful over any substantial period of time? That’s for losers! The book reader is just too damn slow! We need the gamer who can sally forth into Fortnight and slay HORDS by fast twitch precision in the opening seconds of the salvo.
Join the chorus NOW or risk being irrelevant to the meleé.
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[Herb Sevush] “And I would definitely like to hear more about your “et al” since I don’t think there is any “al” for you to name.
“You know something. Never mind.
It wasn’t me that decided the petty backhanded slap at Mr. Ubillos was necessary.
That was you.
And the last thing I need to do is spend my time defending him.
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[Herb Sevush] “Randy/Apple made a new NLE that you describe at the same time as “so easy anyone can learn it” and so complex that anyone who hasn’t learned it already will be lagging behind those of you who have plumbed it’s mysteries from the beginning.”
I have never said anything even remotely like this. You’re projecting.
[Herb Sevush] “But it hasn’t changed the world of editing – not one PC knockoff, not any significant impact on the design of other Mac NLE’s – and as a believer in free market forces I have to ask why?”
Poppycock. Unless, or course, you believe that Premiere suddenly adopting it’s proxy workflow and enabling “hover scrub” et al – had nothing to do with X. Is that your position?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “On no, that would be Movoila, not Moviola. “
Hey, wait…
I wonder if a pronunciation corruption of THAT was where the term “walla” came from to denote environmental audio beds?
Mov-walla?
Mo-walla?Think about it.
????
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Look, Oliver, Herb posted these words…
“Yes, realizing that one of the key designers of NLEs had zero knowledge of film editing techniques and needs…”
I responded with a comment ABOUT THAT. Period.
The implication was clear. The REASON X got so “screwed up” is because it was designed by someone who didn’t really understand the game he was trying to play.
The mistake, IMO, was thinking that the game you expected to be played, was the game that would be the most important going forward.
Apparently, there are a whole lot more of us around the planet who feel that Mr. Ubillos not only “got it” – but was in a position to see things on the horizon that the rest of us were missing along the way. The rise of file based workflows. The explosion of content creation. The need for more efficient tools, and much, much more.
So here we are.
You can persist in a traditional path as Herb’s has elected – constantly looking for tools that work largely as you’re expecting. Or you can bet that on a different path, basically, that the best tools on the path in front of you – will be designed and evolve differently than those behind you.
Each editor makes that call.
And so it goes.
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[Oliver Peters] “In fact, the corporate & commercial projects that I work on – which are almost totally non-broadcast – are almost all shot at 23.976, with the occasional 29.97 mixed in.
“Nobody’s arguing that the cadence issues that the jamming of color under the luma sampling that moved 24 to 23.976, or 30 to 29.97 for broadcast aren’t still real and necessary for some practitioners as we drift away from the old systems.
Just that nobody needs to run chemically treated celluloid through a camera any longer as a part of that. Not unless they’re doing it for what’s basically become a niche aesthetic reason.
And since that is no longer necessary – the NLE that’s overly constructed around those principals – is a NLE that is looking backwards, not forwards.
Accommodate those who want that? Totally fine. But holding to the idea that the lions share of the work continuing forward will NEED that – is nuts. The weight of the industry is just NOT headed in that direction.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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